SRS Ok cards on the table who is on Adderall?

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  1. Paulie Walnuts

    Paulie Walnuts Im an agent of chaos

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    This is more a marker for a post tomorrow since Im about asleep from my ambien but who is taking it and how has it changed your life. Ive tested for minor adult ADD and suffer from depression and some manic episodes. A friend on OT wont name names but you know who you are stated that Adderall basically changed his life. Ive read about other folks saying these things too and after reading up on it I am going to talk to the Dr about it. Im so chaotic and bounce from one thing to another and mood spikes and shit. I just want to be level.

    Its embarassing but right now Im on 4 meds. Prozac, Wellbutrin, Lamictal and Seroquil. Ive tried to get off them but they withdrawls are so bad I couldnt manage. I like the seroquil as it helps with sleep but fuck man I hate taking all these megs when Adderall seems like it would really help coupled with a little cognative therapy.
     
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    Ya tons of people are on adderall, i know this might be a harsh opinion but i think it's a bit of a weakness.

    In terms of sleeping, i never got the usual "8 hours of sleep" that people recommend so i thought something was wrong with me; i went to the doctor and she prescribed me a lower level sleep medication in a small dose (i forget the name), anyway it didn't help and made me feel worse. then i was put on 3-4 different medications, including lorazapan and ambien at various times and those didn't help either and of course made me feel even worse still.

    Finally during winter break i just eschewed all of them and tried to sleep normally....it took a week or so but i did and i kicked my dependency.

    i've been loathe to ask doctors for minor help since :bowdown:
     
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    Genghis.Tron New Member

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    Some people have working memory deficit and just need it, it's not a weakness if properly diagnosed, although some people might want it to get the easy way out.
     
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    i understand, it's just a personal opinion. We all have strengths and flaws. And those flaws should require more work to overcome, not a pop-a-pill solution.
     
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    Having glasses is not considered an easy way out, and I don't think we should consider it an easy solution either just because it's a pill.
     
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    lick wid nit wit Official OT Oracle

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    Some of us have tried working hard to overcome that problem. I've tried damned near everything. I've tried just about every non-pill solution there is, nothing has worked.

    Do you think I want to take Adderall for ADHD? Hell no. But I'm so severe I really don't have a choice. If it weren't for Adderall I wouldn't remember to tie my shoes and I wouldn't remember where I parked my car. THAT is how bad my ADHD is.

    I'm also in my mid 30s and they think I probably had it in school when the teachers had no idea what it was and that's why I did so piss poor in school even though I have a really high IQ.

    Nowadays doctors are too quick to hand out scripts for Ritalin/Adderall for kids and that really bothers me. At least I tried every other resource available.

    Sometimes there's just no other choice and you have to buck up.
     
  7. iwishyouwerebeer

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    My sister is on it after years of trying every other behavioral med under the sun. It's by far the best thing she's ever done.
     
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    Who tests for ADD or approves prescriptions for adderal?
     
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    that's a great example



















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    regardless, it's a personal opinion and one i entirely understand is subjective and therefore i don't impose it or apply it to anyone else.
     
  10. Paulie Walnuts

    Paulie Walnuts Im an agent of chaos

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    lick wid nit wit Official OT Oracle

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    A psychiatrist. My GP sent me to one who specializes in adult ADHD.
     
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    And how is that not comparable? People with ADHD have a neuropsychological deficit which can pretty much compared to having to put on glasses. In fact, I saw a kid which had to take it and the neuropsychologist who supervised me told me to say that. I guess that means it's ok.
     
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    civicmon got all my game from the streets of california.

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    Although I do put everything in the same place... my car keys, wallet etc wind up in the same spot every time I take them out of my wallet.

    Although I did lose my car at Magic Mountain for over an hour... :wtc:

    I agree because for those who have ADHD, it's a lifesaver. Adderall has totally changed my life for the better. ADHD is legit but quite a few would use it to get ahead but for someone with ADHD, it's a godsend.
     
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    I don't know about you, but most people cannot just will their brains to vary the amounts of different neurotransmitters they produce, so most people have to resort to taking pills instead.
     
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    You're certainly welcome to your opinion, but neurological testing can easily reveal severe, moderate, or mild deficits which are "objectively" measured.

    Most patients with serious concentration problems, memory, or encoding and retention often go through these tests.

    Any health problem is technically a weakness, but to imply someone is weak for choosing to treat their condition is illogical. Those who refuse to treat their condition because they think it's weak -- and thus don't solve the problem, are weak.

    There is a lot of stigma associated with handling cognitive, neurological/psychiatric health problems because nearly all of them require medication intervention. It's no different than using hearing aids, prostetics, pace makers, heart stents/beta blockers, or antibiotics when an individual gets an infection.

    So, I would consider reevaluating your judgment. Rather than side on the judgment, focus on those with legit health concerns who are asking questions and who are sincerely concerned with improving their quality of life.
     
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    My mother has incredibly severe cognitive deficits. Her entire life was lived with debilitating ADHD. She couldn't pay her bills easily, she was late to every appointment -- scattered. She's now on Wellbutrin, Aricept, and

    Turns out she was born slightly premature and today we now understand that an issue as simply as ADD can cause organic neurological abnormalities. Same with difficult births. Medications used to induce labor also caused some of these problems.

    Today we know that many other factors outside the control of the individual can cause the deficits. Even those caused by psychological or emotional problems still require "some" form of treatment. That treatment might involve talk-therapy, it may involve exercise, dietary changes, it may involve meditation, or medication.

    There are many different levels. It's a massive spectrum with many causes, so each individual must be evaluated by a specialist to determine the best course of action.

    These diseases became a "fad" during the 80's and 90's and because the conditions were better understood, doctors began over prescribing it without investigating the case with a specialist. That doesn't change the fact that the conditions are real and require treatment though.

    One fact is certain, people who do "not" have a health problem, but who uses these drugs as cognition-enhancing are no different than athletes using steroids. This "is" a problem which is wide spread and will need to be dealt with at some point.
     
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  17. METALLlC BLUE

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    Don't be embarrassed bro. You should be embarrassed if you had those problems but "didn't" try to treat them. I'm on Welbutrin, Lamictal, Ativan for sleep. Seroquel was recommended. Can you tell me about your experience with it? What are the side effects?

    I have a lot of cognitive deficits.
     
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    I couldn't pass without it :)
     
  19. Paulie Walnuts

    Paulie Walnuts Im an agent of chaos

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    Bravo sir.
     
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    Paulie Walnuts Im an agent of chaos

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    Will get back with this tonight as right now I...oh wow look that dog has a poofy tail...
     

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