OFFICIAL OT WRC thread

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  1. Guido The Penguin

    Guido The Penguin Hi, I'm here for the gang bang.

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    Hey, the F-1 bunch got a sticky, why cant we?


    Ok, third round of the season is coming up this weekend in Corsica for the Tour De Corse , also known as the 'Rally of a Thousand Turns'.

    Its tarmac, so immeditaly that makes Peugeot and Citroen the faves. But the factory Citroen team is not entering this round, only Philipe Bugalski in a privateer Xsara will be entered.

    Tommi Makinen and Colin McRae have gotten to know the crash teams personally over the last two years in Corsica. Tommi's regular co-driver Mannisenmaki is still not healed from last years crash, so Lindstrom will still pair Tommi.

    For Ford, Carlos Sainz is always fast on the hard stuff, but the Pirelli tires on the Focus always seem to be down on grip from the Michelin shod Peugeots.

    Also of a weird note, Nicky Grist, Colin's co driver, will have a new seating arrangement in the Focus which will see him almost literally sitting on the floor of the Ford car. This is supposed to improve the handling of the Focus by literally lowering the center of gravity in the Focus, but at the same time, Grist will not be able to see over the dash of the car. :eek:

    Subaru and Hyundai will be using newly homologated versions of their cars also. But both will be more evolution than complete revolution of the cars.

    Gronholm leads the championship with 12 points, followed by Makinen with 10, Sainz with 8, and Loeb with 6.

    One big note is that defending Corsican champ Jesus Puras will not be participating after failing to secure a drive for the rally.
     
  2. Aphoric

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    time and channel?
     
  3. Balzz

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    Will the Skoda even fit on the roads? :big grin:
     
  4. Guido The Penguin

    Guido The Penguin Hi, I'm here for the gang bang.

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    Speed TV will have Rally XS Thursday night at 11 Eastern.

    Then hour long daily recaps of each leg Fri-Sunday also at 11 PM Eastern

    Then Monday, an hour long recap od the third leg at 5:30pm Easter, and an hour recap of the whole rally at 11 pm Eastern.

    Then all of next week at different times, Speed TV will re air the different Corsica Rally shows. Check the Speedtv.com program guide.
     
  5. Guido The Penguin

    Guido The Penguin Hi, I'm here for the gang bang.

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    More so than Arrows can take the start of a race...... :big grin:
     
  6. VBGOD

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    Oh god, another 1 week sticky. :o
     
  7. Guido The Penguin

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    FiA regulations limit all Group A 8 (full factory WRC cars) too 300 hp. They all have to use a 34 mm air restrictor. They all also are limitied to under 2000 CCs (2.0 litre) displacements.

    Group N are also limited to under 2000 CCs, but they must use more 'stock' parts, which limits them on actual HP/torque and driveline components.

    There's other classes of rally cars in the WRC, but the engine regulations for them basically get stepped down for each lower number (A8 versus A7, A6, etc...)
     
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    Well, even though they're only 300 hp, they have absurd amounts of torque. The Impreza 44S WRC is listed at 60 kg-m/torque and at only 4,000 rpm.

    The gear ratios are very short, which also gives them extreme acceleration. But the top flat out speeds are never much more than 120 mph.

    Of the top of my mind, the highest recorded top speed of a WRC car was 207 km/h by Richard Burns in an Impreza. About 120 mph.
     
  9. Guido The Penguin

    Guido The Penguin Hi, I'm here for the gang bang.

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    damn, no love for WRC huh?
     
  10. :wtc: no speedTV up at school :crying: no f1 OR wrc
     
  11. Guido The Penguin

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    damn, I'd have shot the local cable company by now if they didn't carry SpeedTV......
     
  12. Ruination

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    Does anyone know how the Subaru team has been doing? I've missed a lot lately.

    :uh:
     
  13. Damon

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    just posting to give sum lub for WRC :bigthumb:
     
  14. lefty

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    WRC Ownz All

    I don't think I get "SpeedTV" though :dunno:
     
  15. Balzz

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    Guido, I think it's hopeless to expect any more discussion into WRC than a few "owns" statements and a few comments about drifting. :big grin:
     
  16. Sibs

    Sibs FUCK THIS TEAM

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    ahem... did you honestly think you would have the same sucess of my F1 post?



    :fawk:
     
  17. Allmotor

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    marcus gronholm has been looking good, but i've always liked richard burns.
     
  18. Allmotor

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    ^ i like peugeot
     
  19. 99VFR

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    The co-driver seats in the older Subaru were pretty low to the floorpan as I recall. And set back farther in the car than the driver seat.

    I am sorry to say I don't get SpeedTV... doesn't that seem a little odd? All these European ethnicities, and no F1, Touring Car, or WRC. Boo hoo...

    Has anyone here ever run a rally? SCCA or otherwise? I know that there are a bunch of rally schools in Britain akin to the road racing schools here in the states. I've also been to a few WRC rallies (only the Welsh stages since I have cousins there), but it was really fantastic.

    I would love to learn the Scandinavian flick... :big grin:
     
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    It's not like the co-driver needs to see anything, his job is to sit there and read the turns. I remember watching one rally where a co-driver was too scared to even look at the road.
     
  21. Taker

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    yea gronholm and makinen are owning
    but i m still disappointed makinen went to subie (rite?)
    i mean d00d he got a mitsubishi named after him!!
     
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    After 4 championships in a row, I would demand my own car too. ;)
     
  23. kokujin

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    OK - 1st of all... I Declare OT Rally Crew

    I'm #001.


    The cars are theoretically limited to 300hp by restrictor size, but through clever engineering, and the bending of the laws of physics, most make ~320hp, and the prodrive/STi EJ20 makes roughly 500lb/ft. That can really make a car move.

    Most co-drivers will look up at the road periodically to synchronize themselves with the notes (and fend off motion sickness, for which they've already taken a large prophylactic dose of drammamine) , but the motion of the car should be enough, with practice to cue the co-driver, and either way, Colin can tell him to speed up or slow down his dictation. I, personally, would like to be able to see what's going on, but I bet that Nicky will be a little safer sitting lower...in the inevitable McCrash experience.
     
  24. Guido The Penguin

    Guido The Penguin Hi, I'm here for the gang bang.

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    I are #002

    And maybe Nicky has a thing for 'not wanting to see it coming'.... :)
     
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  25. Guido The Penguin

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    Subaru started the season with a win for Makinen and a 6th place for Petter, netting them 12 points and the early lead in the championship.

    Last rally (Sweden) saw Makinen out on the first day when his engine over-heated after the radiator was blocked with snow, then Petter dropped out on the second day when his engine lost all oil, and dropped to 2 cylinders.

    They're now 3rd in the championship behind Peugeot (20) and Ford (16)
     

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