GUN Obama: There is no reason for Americans to stock up on guns.

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  1. HisXLNC

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    I have to wonder where does he get the notion that people think he's going to take away their guns? If people truly thought that, they wouldn't be buying more guns just for him to take them away. What people are preparing for is his ban. :dunno:
     
  2. Cannondale

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    I doubt he will be taking away guns people already own, since he is hopefully smart enough to understand what would happen if he tried to get that going. At least I hope he is intelligent enough to comprehend that.

    He will ban things though, I have very little reason to doubt that.
     
  3. idleprocess

    idleprocess Bring a dollar with you baby in the cold cold grou

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    Damage control attempt: FAILURE
     
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    What damage does he have to control? He hasn't done anything, said he's going to do anything, or is even president yet.
     
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    Actually he has been talking about bans and his being against concealed carry for a while.
     
  6. idleprocess

    idleprocess Bring a dollar with you baby in the cold cold grou

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    You do not seem to be aware of his long-stated policy goals on gun control.
     
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    Alright, let's continue this conversation again in 4 years when nothing has changed.
     
  8. xpinchx

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    I'm sure people were saying that when Clinton won the election as well. It has also been documented that Bush said he would sign an AWB if it made it to his desk, but nothing ever got that far. Now for the next 2 years Obama has everything run by the democrats so anything could happen.

    He's saying the same things now that he was saying 4 months ago. Common sense laws, child safety, requiring background checks on FTF sales, and IIRC he supported the first AWB and he's against conceal carry. If you ask me there is good reason to believe that what we have right now may not be available a year from now. :dunno:

    Famous last words, right there.
     
  9. Paul Revere

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    :rofl: that screams of fear.

    "guys guys guys please dont buy guns :eek4:"
     
  10. yar1182

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    I lived through the first ban. People back then said I was over reacting buying lots of mags, and guns. Then the ban went into place even though lots of people said it would never happen.

    Then when given the chance to register my AW's in CA I registered by beater bushmaster, mac-11, and AK. I did not register my nice Colt AR and a few other choice items in case CA decided to grab all the reigistered AW's. For countless years I've heard "Man I wish I would of got one of those", or "I wish I registered my AR". I remember seeing new in wrapper glock mags going for $100 each. Used glock mags going for $65. USGI AR mags for $35. Colt AR mags for $100.

    There is no doubt in my mind there will be another ban. I am hoping it will be no harsher than the 1st ban but you never know. Whatever the case I'm going to get everything I think I'll need for my lifetime. If the ban does not go into place, great no problem. I've been wanting all this stuff anyway.


    (The unregistered stuff is out of state btw. I know the DOJ, and ATF know who I am. I have registered AW's, a CA CCW, work for a company that has applied/soon to have "manufacturing" FFL, and I buy enough power, pimers, and bullets to be a concern)
     
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    Yeah, I don't think he'll ever take guns away, barring some national incident, and even then it'd be very stupid.

    What I believe everyone is buying guns for is that they believe, like I, and most everyone on this board, than you won't be able to buy the guns.

    I don't really think it'll be on the top of his shit list. and if it is, we're in for more trouble. If it's on his list of priorities once he takes office to ban the purchase of "Assault Weapons", it only means he is trying to limit the number out there for a reason... i.e. he's got some other nation-wide socialistic agendas up his sleeve.



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  12. idleprocess

    idleprocess Bring a dollar with you baby in the cold cold grou

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    The aluminum-foil hat crackpots afraid of outright confiscation are just that - crackpots.

    But when the president-elect has flatly stated on his campaign website and the transition website that he wants to ...
    1. Renew the expired AWB and make it permanent
    2. Legislate that all firearms be "childproof"
    3. Keep guns out of urban areas
    ... I'm not going to say that the leap in post-election gun-buying is irrational. Now it mostly boils down to policy priorities and how the Democrats allocate political capital.

    Maybe that stuff was political-platform boilerplate like all the anti-abortion planks that the Republicans have in their platform every year then fail to act on. Great if so, really bad news if Carolyn McCarthy gets one of her bills out of committee onto the floor, or another AWB is attached to another major bill (think appropriations) as a rider.

    If President-elect Obama had no intention of backing any of those things, maybe he should have pulled them from his various websites and stated in no uncertain terms that he did not intend to push the aforementioned policies rather than his weak attempts at spin.
     
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    All it takes in another columbine, north hollywood shootout, Virginia Tech, or Waco and the ban will be railroaded through. There is no doubt in my mind that some piece of shit criminal is going to accelerate the process if the gun grabbers are dragging their feet.

    Does anyone really believe there will not be one of the above in the next 4 years if not the next year?
     
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    i assume you mean powder. you excrete power, son.
     
  15. kellyclan

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    Nowhere does he say he is NOT going to restrict the rights of the American public.

    All he says is that he is not going to violate the Constitution in such a way that most Americans will notice.

    "Lawful gunowners have nothing to fear" just means you have define exactly what "lawful" means....
     
  16. xpinchx

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    :rofl: That's an easy one to snake your way out of if you're a politician. "Guess what, I just made assault weapons illegal. You're no longer a lawful gun owner, but those that don't have assault weapons are lawful gun owners so they're not affected."
     
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    Its like a mugger trying to sweet talk me into a dark alley. No man there's nothing bad going on here, I'm a nice guy you can trust me, don't look at my hands, there's nothing happening here.

    For some reason all the common sense gun laws I've seen have been ineffective ill-reasoned bullshit. I suspect his will be the same but with a nice shiny finish.

    Interesting, it wasn't that long ago that he didn't even know what the 2nd amendment meant despite being having taught constitutional law. Now he not only understands it but supports it too? What a quick turn around.

    Nothing but another chicago weasel.
     
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    Found these two a couple nights ago while writing a paper on prisons, figure I might as well share in this thread :o


    "As nightfall does not come at once, neither does oppression. In both instances, there is a twilight when everything remains seemingly unchanged, and it is in such twilight that we must be most aware of a change in the air - however slight - lest we become unwitting victims of darkness"
    -Justice Douglas.

    "Experience should teach us to be most on guard when the government's purposes are beneficent. Men born to freedom are naturally alert to repel invasion of their liberty by evil-minded rulers. The greatest dangers to liberty lurk in insidious encroachment by men of zeal, well-meaning, but without understanding."
    -Justice Brandeis
     
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    Just remember, all Obama needs to do is sign a piece of paper. The Democrats in congress will do everything else.
     
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    :werd:

    thats what people don't get " why do you need such and such gun?" "anything more than a pistol is overkill"

    its the old saying "give them an inch...."
     
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    well with Bush setting the standard for using signing statements to make anything he wants a law the president no longer needs congress.
     
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    This exactly what I was thinking. He keeps harping on "lawful" but I'm lawful and I probably have things he would like to make unlawful. At that point, woudl I become not a lawful gun owner? And he didn't say he wouldn't take away the availability of certain "common sense" things.

    I think he's probably just trying to keep people from buying everything up before he gets a chance to ban the sales. I suppose there is the possibility that he/they might see a gun ban might turn a portion of their voters against them and might decide not to do it. I do find it hard to believe though that these people, who have been trying for decades to get rid of guns, will roll over now that they have the power, or will be so wrapped up in the things that are first on their lists that they'll just forget about guns.
     
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    So you're one of those semi-retarded gun owners that voted for Obama. :coolugh:
     
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    To some... There are other issues more important to them than whether or not they will be able to buy that new AR, AK, etc... I personally didn't vote for either candidate, but if someone put a gun to my head and made me vote for 1 or the other, I would have chosen Obama over McCain...

    I don't support the AWB in any way shape or form btw... but I can live with it if I have to... I'm not a member of the "evil black rifle" crew... but I feel I have enough guns/ammo to defend my home and family against any reasonable threat... Granted, being able to defend your home loses a lot of meaning if you are not able to keep your home in the 1st place....
     
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    Obama will do nothing to help people keep their homes. I assure you that a little extra tax money, even for people who don't pay taxes in the first place, will not make or break someone's mortgage payment. It certainly won't change the fact of people getting themselves into mortgages they couldn't afford in the first place.
     

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