SRS Nutritional Approach?

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  1. Blue Apples

    Blue Apples New Member

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    Has anyone here tried a nutritional approach to healing their disorders?

    I'm planning to change to a vegan diet to see if I can eliminate the need for medication.

    Any success stories would be greatly appreciated. Thanks:)
     
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    What particular disorder(s) are you talking about?

    You should check out http://www.doctorbob.com/
    Dr Bob Martin appears regularly on radio with an agenda focused on naturopathic healing. You might be interested to tune in. Check the website for details.
     
  3. I have. It did not work for me because of my specific disease. I have Chronic Lyme Disease.

    However, I do have some positive things to say: I believe based on all my research, experience, and knowledge that the most effective way to get an ample response with many ailments is to combine as many effective therapies as possible, and handle the situation from that perspective.

    What I mean is: If you can forumulate a strong diet, and understand which foods are most effective for your specific ailment, then those should be incorporated into a standard high quality regimen. If the patient has an ailment in which a doctor can also treat the symptoms, but possibly also treat the cause - then using specific routines, and medications on top of the diet and supplementary routine should also be incorporated. Holistic specialists are also useful, however unless you're dealing with a disease with no known cure - I would avoid taking high risks unless you feel you absolutely must. A lot of the unproven therapies are scams, including the supplements. That doesn't mean some aren't effective - some are, but knowing the difference is and overwhelming task for a patient to pursue in most cases.

    If the patient is eating well, seeing a specialist for their ailment, and also using nutritional supplments geared towards overcoming their ailment then including exercise, stretching, meditation, and spiritual practices would also be a wise choice.

    Together these are just a few practical ideas that when put together and monitored under a team of individuals aiding the patient - they should see a greater improvement overall than by using any single therapy alone. Now this is not true with all conditions, and not all conditions allow for all of these techniques to be used - but ultimately using multiple therapies that are confirmed to be effective will yield a synergistic benefit in the healing process of many ailments.
     
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    Specifically I am trying to overcome major depressive disorder, although I've been diagnosed with Bipolar, Borderline Personality and ADD...so I'm not sure exactly what I've got.

    My psychologist is referring me out to a psychiatrist who is also a neurologist. Hopefully I can get some answers soon.

    Thanks :)
     
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    Well Blue Apples, this may be of interest to you. I can send you journal references if you want to look further into this yourself.


    OMEGA-3's IN DIET MAY TREAT DEPRESSION AND SCHIZOPHRENIA
    An interesting study from London, England shows that people with schizophrenia have an abnormal ratio of fatty acids in their cell membranes and givng them omega-3 fatty acids corrrects both their schizophrenia and membrane abnormalities (1). Other studies show that depression may be caused by omega-3 deficiency that results from not eating enough nuts, seeds, whole grains, beans and deep-water fish (2).

    Many psychiatrists treat depression with drugs that raise brain levels of serotonin. Now we learn that a diet deficient in omega-3 fatty acids may lower brain levels of serotonin and can cause depression. Studies show that depression is associated with low levels of red blood cell membrane and low intake of omega-3 fatty acids (3), that increased ratio of omega-6 to omega-3 fatty acids is associated with increased severity of depression (4,5). Depression is 60 times more common in New Zealand (6 percent) than in Japan (.12 percent); the difference may be explained by the high intake of omega-3-rich fish by the Japanese(6).

    Post-partum depression is common in women after they give birth. Pregnancy uses up huge amounts of omega-3 fatty acids. Women with the lowest blood levels of omega-3s are the ones most likely to suffer post-partum depression. Depression increases a person's chances of getting a heart attack. Depressed people often have low blood levels of omega-3s, and so do people who are likely to suffer heart attacks (6). So the association of depression and schizophrenia with heart attacks may be explained by both being caused by low omega-3 fatty acid levels. If these studies can be supported by further studies, some cases of depression may be prevented and treated by eating plenty of deep-water fish, nuts, seeds, beans and whole grains
     
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    I can see how modifying your diet in certain ways might help different conditions... but if you think a Vegan diet is going to help, you are mistaken. If anything... a vegan diet might hurt you. You need dairy if you're not going to eat meat. A well balanced diet, with plenty of vegetables, etc. is going to be your best bet. Veganism is a moral thing. Its not a health thing. You might miss out on essential nutrients that your brain needs.
     
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    Eat omega-3 fat suppliments, its been studied and proven that people who eat fat fish generally suffer from less depression etc.

    Edit: whops, didn't see above...
     
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    Unfortunately I am allergic to dairy.

    Ovo-lacto vegetarians obtain protein from: nuts (eg. almonds, Brazil nuts, cashews, hazel nuts, peanuts, pine kernels), seeds (eg. flax, pumpkin, sesame, sunflower seeds), legumes/pulses (eg. peas, beans, lentils), grains/cereals (eg. wheat, pasta, barley, rye, oats, millet, maize, sweetcorn, rice), soy products (eg. tofu, tempeh, tvp, soya milks), dairy foods (eg. milk, cheese, yogurt), and free range eggs.

    A well-balanced vegetarian diet will supply all the protein and essential amino acids needed by the body.

    So, since I'm allergic to dairy, I plan to consume nuts and seeds to supplement.

    :bigthumb:
     
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    Eat eggs. If you don't eat meat, you won't get essential brain nutrients like creatine. Interesting fact: if you give a vegetarian creatine powder, their memory improves significantly. Things like this make me think that such a diet will only hurt you... unless we're talking about coming from a fat-ass-steak-and-potatoes diet.
     
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    I think I could stand to eat egg whites, however, my boyfriend has creatine at the house, so I could supplement it.

    I'm also wondering if I might benefit from taking a full-spectrum Amino Acid supplement....
     
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    If you do that... why not just eat meat?
     
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    Red meat increases your risk of colorectal cancer. Use sparingly. The same doesn't apply for poultry or fish.

    Having said all that....personally I love a nice inch thick porterhouse, medium rare, peppercorns & blue cheese on the side, portobello mushrooms, roasted dill potatoes & tiny halved winter squashes. And Stella Artois goes really well with all that too.
     
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    Actually, isn't red meat fine about once a week in terms of risk?
     
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    Yeah, the risk is basically for men who consume more than 3 ounces of red meat per day, basically a hamburger's worth of meat.
    For women, the critcal amount is 2 ounces.

    Here's a link to a brief article on it on the American Cancer Society's website.
    http://www.cancer.org/docroot/NWS/c...g_Lots_of_Red_Meat_Linked_to_Colon_Cancer.asp

    So if you're gonna eat meat, skip McD's and tuck into a nice premium porterhouse or filet mignon!
     
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    I don't want to eat meat for many personal reasons. I tend to believe that whatever "intelligent creator" put us here probably put all the essential nutrients in fruits, vegetables and nuts. But, that's just my opinion. I will, however, continue to eat fish to obtain essential fatty acids.

    I'm on day three of a natural diet, so far I've consumed fruit smoothies for breakfast (combining banana, raspberry and tangerines in a blender) and veggie sandwiches for lunch and for dinner it's up in the air but I know I have more energy and my depression is lifting. :)
     
  16. That will happen as a natural result of focusing on the diet [having a goal or keeping busy doing some type of project], and is not necessarily attributed to the diet itself. I encourage you to continue with the diet, but definately make sure you're eating a wide array of foods.
     

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