Now I'm a believer - in Ubuntu

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  1. Joe_Cool

    Joe_Cool Never trust a woman or a government. Moderator

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    I downloaded their live cd, not expecting it to work.

    I have a Compaq R3000 laptop with an nvidia video/audio set, broadcom wireless net, and alps glidepoint mouse. I've never been able to get the glidepoint working under the 2.6.* kernel, and it took me about an hour to get the nvidia video & audio working properly.

    So I booted up the Ubuntu disk, and except for the broadcom wireless (which should easily be fixed with ndiswrapper), everything started up working flawlessly on the first try - even ACPI.

    This is the best thing to come from Africa since Nigerian bankers wanting to give you $20 million.

    :bowdown:

    I may have to download their install disks and take Fedora off of it.
     
  2. SLED

    SLED build an idiot proof device and someone else will

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    fedora hw detection sucks. Have you tried SuSE yet? Unbuntu is a great distro for a desktop/laptop machine.
     
  3. Joe_Cool

    Joe_Cool Never trust a woman or a government. Moderator

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    No, I've mainly used RedHat & Fedora for my whole unix life (since Caldera 1.2 & RH5.1 back in '98), with a bit of sidelining in BSD, Solaris, and AIX. But this is my first foray into non-Redhat-based linux. :o

    I've just wiped Fedora from my laptop and Ubuntu is installing now. I also just built a testbed machine for trying out new stuff. SuSE is probably the next one I'll check out.
     
  4. Rob

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    I was gonna install Ubuntu on my machine the other day, but they only let you boot from CDs. :o

    I haven't had an optical drive in my machine in 3 years. :o
     
  5. Joe_Cool

    Joe_Cool Never trust a woman or a government. Moderator

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    Well crap. I'm back to the same place I was with Fedora 3. I STILL can't get my touchpad to work in the installed version. But the live cd works perfectly. :squint: I even copied the cd's /etc/X11/xorg.conf to my hard drive and booted with it, and it still won't move or click.

    I'm starting to get really frustrated.

    I guess I'm back to being one of the unfaithful again.
     
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  6. Joe_Cool

    Joe_Cool Never trust a woman or a government. Moderator

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    Ok, problem is solved and I'm happy. :)

    It turns out all I had to do was delay the mouse initialization. I just put a script at the end of the boot sequence to unload and reload the module.
     
  7. VoOdOoVyPeR

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    people in africa have computers? :ugh:
     
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    Who do you think has been scamming you? :squint:
     
  9. Penguin Man

    Penguin Man Protect Your Digital Liberties

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    Yep, nearly all the full-time Linux users I know are either running Gentoo or Ubuntu right now. It's an absolutely awesome system.

    If you want even more amazement, add the Ubuntu Backports repositories to your APT config. They have tons of stuff that the official repositories don't have, and a lot of newer versions of stuff in the repositories, updated very frequently. Very good project.
     
  10. zero xeal

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    I love my FreeBSD, I have yet to really dabble in the finer Linux os's (gentoo and ubuntu of course) may need to in the near future.
     
  11. Joe_Cool

    Joe_Cool Never trust a woman or a government. Moderator

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    Oh yeah, NOW you sign on, AFTER I figured out my problem. :)
     
  12. Penguin Man

    Penguin Man Protect Your Digital Liberties

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    Eh, not sure I could have helped anyway :dunno:

    I actually hate problems, that's why I use Ubuntu. No problems. Ever.
     
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    except that slow bloated piece of shit you happen to call ubuntu?

    seriously, try gentoo.
     
  14. Joe_Cool

    Joe_Cool Never trust a woman or a government. Moderator

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    Fuck off, troll. I've been using linux probably longer than you've been using windows, and using windows probably almost as long as you've been alive.

    Go away. The smart people and the grownups are talking.
     
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    Not only do they have computers, but they have more drive, ambition, and raw intelligence than you ever will.

    Bitch.
     
  16. Joe_Cool

    Joe_Cool Never trust a woman or a government. Moderator

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    Thanks for helping me make up my mind whether I should ignore you. Every post I've ever seen from you has been stupid fucking trolling. :wavey:
     
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    :gtfo: of this thread, you stupid ignorant troll. You don't have to like LInux. But you're too ignorant to form a proper criticism, so just go die.
     
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  19. Shaggy007

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    I've been using Ubuntu for almost a year now. It's an awesome os for laptops, and runs smooth. It had everything working out of the box that every other distro I tried just failed at. Even Broadcom wireless cards are set up easily with ndiswrapper.

    You most likely wont ever go back.
     
  20. Joe_Cool

    Joe_Cool Never trust a woman or a government. Moderator

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    I'm still pretty annoyed with the package management. It's not as seamless as RPM, but I'll probably like it better when I learn it better.

    Other than that, it's good so far.
     
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  22. Penguin Man

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    Been there, tried that, got pissed off and wanted to break something. If I wanted to fight with my OS to get it to work, I'd install Windows.
     
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    Penguin Man Protect Your Digital Liberties

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    Hm, I actually find the apt package management to be much easier than RPM, since it gets any deps for you before it installs a package, instead of just telling you what they are and making you figure out where to get them. I'd say Synaptic is probably the best package manager I've used (and yes I know it's just a frontend, but it handles everything for you so I call it a package manager).
     
  24. Joe_Cool

    Joe_Cool Never trust a woman or a government. Moderator

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    Synaptic is good, and apt is a good concept, but to be honest, I think the port (apt-rpm) is better than the original.

    Does dpkg have an equivalent to rpm -q, to get a list of what packages are installed?
     
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    dpkg -l [pattern] will give you a list of all the packages dpkg knows about whose names match [pattern]. Since the first column of the listing is the status of the package, you can do dpkg -l [pattern] | grep ii to get all the packages matching [pattern] that are installed (since ii is the flag for installed packages). For example, if I run dpkg -l *apache* I get:

    Code:
    pn  apache         <none>         (no description available)
    ii  apache-common  1.3.33-4       support files for all Apache webservers
    ii  apache-dev     1.3.33-4       development kit for the Apache webserver
    un  apache-doc     <none>         (no description available)
    un  apache-modules <none>         (no description available)
    un  apache-perl    <none>         (no description available)
    un  apache-ssl     <none>         (no description available)
    un  apache-utils   <none>         (no description available)
    ii  apache2        2.0.53-5ubuntu next generation, scalable, extendable web se
    ii  apache2-common 2.0.53-5ubuntu next generation, scalable, extendable web se
    un  apache2-dev    <none>         (no description available)
    pn  apache2-doc    <none>         (no description available)
    un  apache2-module <none>         (no description available)
    un  apache2-mpm-pe <none>         (no description available)
    ii  apache2-mpm-pr 2.0.53-5ubuntu traditional model for Apache2
    un  apache2-mpm-th <none>         (no description available)
    un  apache2-mpm-wo <none>         (no description available)
    un  apache2-prefor <none>         (no description available)
    ii  apache2-thread 2.0.53-5ubuntu development headers for apache2
    ii  apache2-utils  2.0.53-5ubuntu utility programs for webservers
    un  libapache-dav- <none>         (no description available)
    un  libapache-mod- <none>         (no description available)
    un  libapache-mod- <none>         (no description available)
    rc  libapache-mod- 0.39-3.1       turns Apache into a streaming audio server
    pn  libapache-mod- <none>         (no description available)
    un  libapache-mod- <none>         (no description available)
    rc  libapache-mod- 4.3.10-10ubunt server-side, HTML-embedded scripting languag
    un  libapache-mod- <none>         (no description available)
    un  libapache-mod- <none>         (no description available)
    un  libapache-mod- <none>         (no description available)
    un  libapache-mod- <none>         (no description available)
    un  libapache-mod- <none>         (no description available)
    un  libapache-mod- <none>         (no description available)
    un  libapache-mod- <none>         (no description available)
    rc  libapache-mod- 2.8.22-1       Strong cryptography (HTTPS support) for Apac
    un  libapache-mod- <none>         (no description available)
    un  libapache2-dav <none>         (no description available)
    ii  libapache2-mod 4.3.9-1ubuntu1 Apache 2 module for MySQL authentication
    rc  libapache2-mod 1.1.1-4.1      Module for Apache2 which authenticate using 
    rc  libapache2-mod 2.0.48-4-2.1   Module for Apache2 which provides plaintext 
    ii  libapache2-mod 0.3-1          run Apache in a secure chroot environment
    ii  libapache2-mod 20040616-3.1   Apache2 module for non-ascii filename intero
    pn  libapache2-mod <none>         (no description available)
    ii  libapache2-mod 1.99.14-4      Integration of perl with the Apache2 web ser
    ii  libapache2-mod 4.3.10-10ubunt server-side, HTML-embedded scripting languag
    pn  libapache2-mod <none>         (no description available)
    un  libapache2-mod <none>         (no description available)
    un  libapache2-mod <none>         (no description available)
    un  libapache2-mod <none>         (no description available)
    rc  libapache2-mod 3.1.3-2.2ubunt An Apache 2 module that embeds Python 2.4 wi
    ii  libapache2-mod 1.8.4-1.1ubunt Tighten the Web application security for Apa
    ii  libapache2-svn 1.1.1-2ubuntu3 Apache modules for Subversion (aka. svn)
    If I do dpkg -l *apache* |grep ii I get:

    Code:
    ii  apache-common  1.3.33-4       support files for all Apache webservers
    ii  apache-dev     1.3.33-4       development kit for the Apache webserver
    ii  apache2        2.0.53-5ubuntu next generation, scalable, extendable web se
    ii  apache2-common 2.0.53-5ubuntu next generation, scalable, extendable web se
    ii  apache2-mpm-pr 2.0.53-5ubuntu traditional model for Apache2
    ii  apache2-thread 2.0.53-5ubuntu development headers for apache2
    ii  apache2-utils  2.0.53-5ubuntu utility programs for webservers
    ii  libapache2-mod 4.3.9-1ubuntu1 Apache 2 module for MySQL authentication
    ii  libapache2-mod 0.3-1          run Apache in a secure chroot environment
    ii  libapache2-mod 20040616-3.1   Apache2 module for non-ascii filename intero
    ii  libapache2-mod 1.99.14-4      Integration of perl with the Apache2 web ser
    ii  libapache2-mod 4.3.10-10ubunt server-side, HTML-embedded scripting languag
    ii  libapache2-mod 1.8.4-1.1ubunt Tighten the Web application security for Apa
    ii  libapache2-svn 1.1.1-2ubuntu3 Apache modules for Subversion (aka. svn)
    Alternately, you can create a custom filter in Synaptic that will let you view only installed packages whose names contain a certain phrase (by going into "Filters" under the Settings menu).
     

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