Not sure which gripping implement to purchase.

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  1. mandrew

    mandrew New Member

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    I'm stuck between buying either two CoC grippers (probably a trainer and then a No. 1) or "the vise gripper" that t-nation recently said was a good buy for grip training.

    As far as I can tell:

    Pros of CoC: reliable and I know it will work
    Cons: non-adjustable


    Pros of Vise Gripper: adjustable, so I don't have to buy a new gripper later on
    Cons: not sure if it works as promised or is reliable. I read that it has a shorter ROM than most grippers so I'm not sure if that's a huge problem or not.



    Anybody have any bad experiences with the vise gripper? As for my current grip strength I've done 325 x 5 double overhand deads, 225 x 12+ double overhand RDLs, and 400+ deads for reps with mixed grip and no problems.
     
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    dont waste time with trainer, start @ #1
     
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    and dead grip <> crush strength
     
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    will there be any carry over? that's the only reason I'm buying it-- got straps for deads and I'm gonna start using them, but I don't want my grip to go to shit.

    edit: read the grip strength EDU in the archives... it doesn't really say if there's a carry-over :noes:
     
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    yes.
     
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    If you're hell bent on doing double overhead on the deadlift, then learn to love the hook grip. I have pulled over 600 like that. You get used to it. I would not even consider going back to alternating grip now that I'm used to using the hook grip. The pain isn't that bad, just man up.
     
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    i almost get a #1 with my right hand, but can barely get a trainer with my left hand yet have never had a problem hanging onto 600+

    therefore, i have concluded that grippers dont mean shit
     
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    I agree. I have closed the COC #3 and really don't feel like my grip is any stronger on deadlifts then when I first started out closing the #1.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8xtGo3ssOWk
     
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    Eveyone says that there isn't a carryover, but I disagree. I don't think they're necessary, and I don't think that they're the best way to train for deadlift grip (at all) but I do think that they help, especially if you hold for time.
     
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    Doing plate pinches I would say is the best exercise for strengthening the fingers to hold onto the bar for deadlifts. But doing any sort of grip training is gonna have an effect I suppose. Heavy farmers walks would work too.

    Here ya go. Don't mind the damn song!
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZOhxhulC7SM
     
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    No shit? I'll give it a try next next time I deadlift :bigthumb:
     
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    I'm gonna get the adjustable "vise gripper" just for the hell of it. I don't do any kind of grip/forearm training so it might be nice to have around the house.
     
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    There are much better things you can do for improving your DL holding strength then CoC grippers. A fatbar/axle is one example or farmers walks.

    However not everyone has access to such things but some ghetto farmers walk implents can be rigged up with 2 5gal buckets full of sand and some PVC pipe over the handles.

    Plate pinches as mentioned earlier are good and I also recomend learning how to hook grip.
     
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    CoC Ftw, i'm thinking of buying a #1 and 2
     
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    I don't have the COC, but I have the Heavy grip 100, 150, and 200.

    I don't remember what they go up to, but I added a ring clamp to the 200 to make it a hell of a lot more difficult. I always start with the 100 so my knuckles don't crack like crazy when I do them.
     
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    right on. I did some heavy DB holds tonight for time, which I liked so I'll add them to my routine.


    I'm pumped to try the hook grip next week. I've been too scurred to try but I'll just do it.
     
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    it was teh hotness for a while. grouch hyped it up a bit too.
     
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    I bought and still play around with my CoC grippers but I really think there are far superior methods to improving your grip strength for the deadlift.
     
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