A&P not sure what settings to use to render as (lots of info, screenshots)

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  1. Ebtromba

    Ebtromba Active Member

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    I have this camera
    http://review.zdnet.com/product/digital-camcorders/sony-bloggie-mhs-cm5-purple/33939622

    I record in the 720p 60f/sec mode.

    the camera uses H.264 compression to MPEG-4 files. I think.

    ok.

    so I used sony vegas. when I start a new project, what should I choose?

    here are my options

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    ok. so I do my thing. now comes rendering.

    what template should I use?

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    and now save as type, what shall I choose?


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    size is not a concern. these are short videos for youtube, I want them to look as good as possible.

    thanks
     
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    isaac86hatch This thread sucks

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    thanks for shitting on my thread a little
     
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    also

    I just realized the original files off the camera are .mp4

    so should I render to mp4?

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  5. AdvanTech

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    720/60i or 60p?
     
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    the camera has options for 720p 30 frames per second, 720p 60 frames per second, or 1080p 30 frames per second

    720p 60 frames per second works best
     
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    Does it look interlaced on your computer?
     
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    sadly I do not know what interlaced looks like, I don't think
     
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    isaac86hatch This thread sucks

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    I uploaded a test to youtube. I used the mpeg-2 option for rendering.

    vegas 7 (what I have) doesn't seem to be able to output to H246 or mkv or whatever is the new hotness these days. keep in mind the current version is vegas 9, so its not too surprising i guess.

    the mpeg-2 rendering spit out a .m2t file. which I had never fucking heard of before. but I think it looks pretty decent.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YOvjXuPbwQQ

    enjoy. its basically a couple of inside jokes for friends.

    let me know if you think I should change a setting or two. thanks.
     
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    The Mainconcept .mp4 render option is h.264. I use that all the time.
     
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    the thing is it renders to a tiny ipod sized video...
     
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    so I manually changed the settings to 720p

    it came back crazy pixelated, as its basically just a blown up ipod video at this point.

    what I tried


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    I think I may just try to "acquire" vegas 9..
     
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    Keiphus my dog eats bears

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    The question is, what are you outputting for?

    As far as file type, see if you can set it to Quicktime and then see if there is an option for one of the Apple ProRes codecs.

    We kinda need to know what you need this for though.

    Output to a DVD? Bluray? Web video?

    If you just want to preserve as best you can whatever you shot, you should output to 720/30fps. Converting to 24/23.98 will require you to do some drop frame and reverse pulldown bullshit, and 25/50 is PAL standards neither of which you want.
     
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    just tell me what to choose on each pull down option.
     
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    Keiphus my dog eats bears

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    I would render to quicktime at 720/ 29.97. Then open the quicktime and export to quicktime movie (h264) into whatever format/size that youtube requires.

    This way you have an HD master and then the youtube version as well.
     
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    rendered it with quicktime setting.

    it made a 9 gig file. from a 1:30 video

    mother of fucking god.

    I think ill just keep using mpeg-2 until I am able to get vegas 9
     
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    Yeah, you're on the right track, but you can't keep the same bitrate for 720p as ipod video. Try an average of 6 million and a max of 8 million. Overkill, but gorgeous once youtube re-encodes it.
     
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    oh. haha yeah, its like a blew up a thumbnail.

    thanks alot. I'll see what happens
     
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    well, the filesize is less than half that of the mpeg-2.

    I can't tell what looks better.

    I'll embed youtube links for you guys to decide as soon as it uploads and encodes
     
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    alright

    mp4 (done with vegas 9, finally got it working
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    mpeg-2
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    they look the same to me honestly. not exactly super great quality video to begin with, of course.
     
  22. horselover fat

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    mp4 looks better, at least on youtube
     
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    its starting to grow on me too
     
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    the people look alot more sharper, in focus to me
     
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    mp4 looks better
     

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