No sit-ups and crunches?

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  1. lawrencel715

    lawrencel715 New Member

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    So I was reading this: http://www.t-nation.com/free_online...rformance/stuff_you_should_be_doing_but_arent

    Cliff Notes Version (Professional Explanation): When one performs a sit-up and/or crunch, they're essentially pulling the sternum closer to the pelvis hundreds, if not thousands of times, promoting a kyphotic posture (rounded back), as well as a host of other postural dysfunctions.


    Have most of you ditched doing these? I've been doing them at the end of workouts. Never really thought about them messing up the back/spine.
     
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    Interesting.

    By the way, what he's talking about is spread across pages 3 and 4

    I never really do crunches anymore, I do weighted ab pulldowns and hanging leg raises mostly.
     
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    too bad ceaze isnt here
     
  4. xSteveO

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    I would think if you keep a good balance of lower back and ab exercises then there should be no problems? :dunno:
     
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    They're actually saying you'll end up with a rounded upper back posture, but I would think you could compensate for that with other excercises. Or am I confusing the part on bench/row?
     
  6. xSteveO

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    I don't know about this. Almost everyone I have seen that maintains a good balance of everything and hits every part of their body usually maintains a good posture. I've always done heavy crunches, situps, leg raises, etc and I feel like my posture is damn near perfect and this is going on 6 years now. If anything, it's improved a good bit since I started lifting
     
  7. 4cd-Air

    4cd-Air Rape seemed like the next logical step

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    90% of my ab work does not involve the "sit-up" motion, but rather variations that avoid serious spinal threats

    fuck high rep sit ups
     
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    Yeah, did you read the article or are you going off the cliffs?
     
  9. Uglybob69

    Uglybob69 I miss beer.

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    as long as there isn't a big muscle imbalance, I doubt it
     
  10. xSteveO

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    just cliffs
     
  11. erok81

    erok81 All your canyons are belong to me!!

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    Such as?

    I usually do weighted crunches on the machines.
     
  12. 4cd-Air

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    lots of plank variations, hanging leg/knee raises, reverse crunches, other shit
     
  13. 4cd-Air

    4cd-Air Rape seemed like the next logical step

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    not a lot of spinal flexion/extention stuff though, not intended directly for my abs.
     
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    i only think this would happen if you did like 3000 sets of situps/crunches daily

    i do like 3-4 sets twice a week what the fuck is the problem
     
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    I love this one. It's very effective.
     
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    situps and crunches seem like such a waste
     
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    what about weighted side bends for the obliques? are those bad?
     
  18. Patrick Bateman

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    i work abs like 1-2x/month, its all about bodyfat for me. my abs are there and strong as long as my bf is low. they get hit enough squatting/deadlifting/back work etc.
     
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    You just need to work abs enough so you're core is strong enough to handle your lifts

    roman chairs; leg lifts; sky raises; roll outs; planks are basically all you need

    I recommend not training obliques (unless you don't care about appearance) b/c it will give you a blocky look to your midsection and theyre rarely ever a problem for ur other lifts
     
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    helpful, thanks all. i did rollouts yesterday. i think i'll do planks and other stuff i saw on that article. that 5-10lb plate stacking looks pretty interesting. i'll probably get funny looks, but whatever.
     
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