A&P Nikons with no focus motor in the body

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  1. CString

    CString New Member

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    Is not having a focus motor in the body enough of a reason to not buy a camera? I've been looking at DSLR's for a couple days. Budget isn't that great...somewhere around $600. So I checked out the Nikon D60. The main complaint I found was about it not having a focus motor in the body. I'm completely new to SLR's and I don't know if this is a huge drawback or not. I assume Nikon would make a decent amount of lenses with an integrated motor to compensate for this, but I'm not sure. Thanks for any help.
     
  2. Wobistdu

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    i may be wrong, but a d5000 is a better buy than a d60. i think d5000 is in the same boat with no body motor, but the sensor is a hell of a lot better
     
  3. adamlewis88

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    It just depends.

    It used to be kind of a big deal when Nikon didnt make many AF-s lenses. Now, almost everything has an AF-s counterpart but it is also more expensive.

    Two examples:
    If you buy a D90 and want to shoot low light action, you can use the older AF 80-200/2.8 thats like ~$1200.
    If you buy a D3000 and want to low light action, you have to get their AF-s 70-200/2.8 VRII thats ~$2400. Its a better lens but it costs twice as much.

    OR

    You buy a D90 and want a nice, fast little 50mm. No problem. You can buy the old AF 50/1.8 thats ~$120.
    You buy a D3000 and want a nice, fast little 50mm and youre stuck with the AF-s 50/1.4 which is ~$500

    So yes; they have made more lenses with AF-s motors in them and those lenses are better than their older counterparts. However, theyre also more expensive.
     
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    And yes, I would buy ANY CMOS Nikon over ANY CCD Nikon.
     
  5. Wobistdu

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    :h5:

    i'm learning
     
  6. Wobistdu

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    also the 35 1.8 has an AFS motor in it. it's $200 vs $130 for the 50 1.8. better quality lens and a better mm range for a crop. my 50mm sits in the bag.
     
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    for your average person, not a big deal. but if you plan on furthering it passed just a hobby, it may become limiting.
     
  8. SkiMax

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    part of the reason why I got a D90...
     
  9. someonenew

    someonenew He's Dangerous

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    as a beginner camera it's not a big issue, the lens that comes with the camera is AF-S, and there are many beginner/kit lenses that are all AF-S.


    There are some "older" lenses that are not AF-S, and in some cases a couple of the super popular primes are not AF-S. However, most of the "Pro" lenses are all AF-S and by the time you're putting these on your camera chances are you've moved to a better body anyway. The 24-70, 70-200 etc are all AF-S.

    The D40-5000 line are designed as introductory bodies to get someone into the world of DSLR photography relatively cheap. Once you've bought into it and decide it's something you want to pursue you may feel that you quickly outgrow these beginner bodies. If you never pass beyond taking holiday vacation snapshots, backyard BBQ snaps, and letting the wife use it at Soccer games on a Saturday morning you may never feel you need an upgraded body anymore than those who keep the same point and shoots for 5 years.
     
  10. jared_IRL

    jared_IRL OT Supporter

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    the worst part about the d60 isn't the lack of a focus motor.

    It's the shitty 3 AF points.

    Get the d3000 or d5000 if you're going to stick with entry level.
     
  11. someonenew

    someonenew He's Dangerous

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    someone who actually agrees:eek3:

    I've been arguing that point for ages...I felt more limited by the 3 AF points in camera than the lens selection available. And I owned a D40:o
     
  12. Ty Webb

    Ty Webb You don't have to go to college. This isn't Russia

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    Being that I am a Canon user and hardly know a thing about Nikons - I was astonished to find out from my friend who is a Nikon user that the focus motor is in the body of the camera.
     
  13. Wobistdu

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    does anyone here have more than 11 autofocus points? i guess the FX cameras have a lot more but you can reduce them right?

    sometimes i find 11 AF pts on the D90 to be a pain. i wish there were a few more.
     
  14. someonenew

    someonenew He's Dangerous

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    D300 has 51;)
     
  15. Wobistdu

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    doesnt that d700 too?

    my buddy heinz reduces to 11 cuz he says it's annoying going through 51 pts
     
  16. SkiMax

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    lol, jesus!
     
  17. someonenew

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    I like 51, and use quite a few of them frequently...and I don't let it autoselect. So yes, I actually move my focus point for my shots.
     
  18. Wobistdu

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    i've used autofocus for maybe 100 pics in my camera. i love selecting my own point. thank the Nikon gods for being able to set wrap around. i hated at first going to the left and then not being able to hit left again to come around. woohoo.
     
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    so you manually focus everything? then what does it matter how many AF point the camera has?
     
  20. SkiMax

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    I think he means he doesnt let the camera pick the AF points.
     
  21. Wobistdu

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    oops i mean the focus selection where it picks your point. i use the single point
     
  22. someonenew

    someonenew He's Dangerous

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    I know what he meant, but that's not what he said ;)
     
  23. Wobistdu

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    :wtc: fail terminology
     
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    I will agree with it every way from Sunday.

    Plus the D60 has no commander mode for flash built in.

    As far as the no autofocus motor it is annoying but nothing that is a deal breaker. Almost all new lenses coming out the AF built in.

    Still have not decided what I want to jump to next.

    I tend to shoot stuff that does not move so my work around has just been hit it on AF with a half press, recompose, and depress it all the way.
     
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    TheManLouisianaFace and decide!

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