A&P Nikon Crew: What "optimize image" do you shoot in?

Discussion in 'Lifestyle' started by Redliner7, Apr 4, 2007.

  1. Redliner7

    Redliner7 New Member

    Joined:
    Nov 3, 2005
    Messages:
    740
    Likes Received:
    0
    What color mode do you guys shoot in?

    Normal, Portrait, Vivid, Custom, etc?

    I'm not liking the default color production, it lacks...punch in both cameras. The pictures always look a little flat. So I messed around in the Custom menu for both my D70 & D200, and ended up with the following settings:

    0 sharpening, +2 Tone comp (contrast), Color Mode IIIa, 0 Saturation. It offers good, rich, color, without looking too overblown -- I like it a lot more.

    Anyways, what do you guys shoot in, and why?

    PS: And can anyone explain to me the difference between color mode I & III in the D200? I left the manual at work :o
     
  2. FusionZ06

    FusionZ06 /\__/\__/\__0>

    Joined:
    Apr 10, 2004
    Messages:
    86,918
    Likes Received:
    0
    Location:
    Sunshine State
    Vivid
    ColorMode IIIa
    Saturation +

    Then of course post processing
     
  3. Chiron

    Chiron New Member

    Joined:
    Jan 2, 2006
    Messages:
    2,123
    Likes Received:
    0
    Location:
    CONUS
    Mode Ia and IIIa are both mapped to the sRGB color space and so images shot in these modes will look correct immediately and can be used as is. Color mode IIIa has been designed for use for nature and landscape shots, it provides richer greens and a more natural balance of other colors.
     
  4. Chiron

    Chiron New Member

    Joined:
    Jan 2, 2006
    Messages:
    2,123
    Likes Received:
    0
    Location:
    CONUS
    Also, I use custom settings, which I adjust depending on what I am shooting.
     
  5. jared_IRL

    jared_IRL OT Supporter

    Joined:
    Feb 12, 2006
    Messages:
    17,737
    Likes Received:
    55
    Good question!

    I was switching back and forth, depending on what I was shooting, but wasn't really sure about what exactly did what, except that the color saturation REALLY cranked up the reds....

    So I reset it back to normal.

    Redliner, i'm gonna try out your settings tomorrow...

    Chiron, mind sharing what you shoot at for particular subjects?
     
  6. Chiron

    Chiron New Member

    Joined:
    Jan 2, 2006
    Messages:
    2,123
    Likes Received:
    0
    Location:
    CONUS
    Because I am a kind man, I shall divulge.

    To make this easier on myself and you, here is the breakdown.

    Subject
    Color Space
    Sharpening
    Tone


    People
    Ia
    Normal
    Normal (slightly less than normal in brightly lit situations)

    Outdoors
    IIIa
    Slightly Above Normal, but not the highest
    Normal (or more than normal in average light)

    General (Photoshop enhanced settings)
    IIa (AdobeRGB)
    None
    Normal


    Cheers
     
  7. Redliner7

    Redliner7 New Member

    Joined:
    Nov 3, 2005
    Messages:
    740
    Likes Received:
    0
    I shot a little more this afternoon, and I really like it for most everything...but I'm afraid of shooting people in this setting. I'll try Chiron's settings out...

    I kinda wanted a custom setting that could do everything I wanted, without having to switch back and forth, to be honest. I'm lazy like that...
     
  8. Chiron

    Chiron New Member

    Joined:
    Jan 2, 2006
    Messages:
    2,123
    Likes Received:
    0
    Location:
    CONUS
    I know the feeling. Sometimes I either don't have the time to switch them up, or a sudden strike of laziness hits me. It would have been nice if Nikon designed a feature to let you create more than one custom profile and save it to be added with the others.
     
  9. peoplescar

    peoplescar Guest

    vivid is great. more vivid is great for nature.
     
  10. Blair

    Blair New Member

    Joined:
    Mar 13, 2003
    Messages:
    8,532
    Likes Received:
    0
    Location:
    Oregon
    do any of these custom settings get encoded in the RAW file that photoshop or aperture might recognize. i generally dont use them because it was my understanding that they do not effect raw. am i wrong?
     
  11. TurkeyChicken

    TurkeyChicken New Member

    Joined:
    Jun 26, 2003
    Messages:
    42,913
    Likes Received:
    0
    Location:
    Albuquerque, NM
    I'd be curious to know this too
     
  12. Redliner7

    Redliner7 New Member

    Joined:
    Nov 3, 2005
    Messages:
    740
    Likes Received:
    0
    Maybe not sharpening, contrast...but I suspect at least color space would affect it. I dunno...

    Someone who knows their shit needs to come in here and explain themselves :o
     
  13. Airpoppoff

    Airpoppoff Vodka > Racing F1

    Joined:
    Nov 25, 2003
    Messages:
    9,294
    Likes Received:
    0
    Location:
    Kirkland, Seattle, Wa
  14. BeachBoy

    BeachBoy New Member

    Joined:
    Mar 8, 2006
    Messages:
    1,214
    Likes Received:
    0
    Location:
    Calgary, AB
    same here

    the original setting lacks a lot of "punch" for outdoors
     
  15. hsubaru

    hsubaru New Member

    Joined:
    May 1, 2006
    Messages:
    301
    Likes Received:
    0
    I shoot in RAW.
     
  16. FusionZ06

    FusionZ06 /\__/\__/\__0>

    Joined:
    Apr 10, 2004
    Messages:
    86,918
    Likes Received:
    0
    Location:
    Sunshine State
    :greddy:

    Big waste
     
  17. Airpoppoff

    Airpoppoff Vodka > Racing F1

    Joined:
    Nov 25, 2003
    Messages:
    9,294
    Likes Received:
    0
    Location:
    Kirkland, Seattle, Wa
    :rofl:
     
  18. FusionZ06

    FusionZ06 /\__/\__/\__0>

    Joined:
    Apr 10, 2004
    Messages:
    86,918
    Likes Received:
    0
    Location:
    Sunshine State
    Seriously it is...
     
  19. Blair

    Blair New Member

    Joined:
    Mar 13, 2003
    Messages:
    8,532
    Likes Received:
    0
    Location:
    Oregon
    explain your reasoning.
     
  20. jared_IRL

    jared_IRL OT Supporter

    Joined:
    Feb 12, 2006
    Messages:
    17,737
    Likes Received:
    55
    Jesus... Not this again.

    If you're a professional sports/journalism photographer, it's a waste.

    If you're shooting for personal pleasure, quality, or archival ability, RAW has much better potential.

    Regardless, I have no idea whether or not you can use the optimize image settings in raw. I'm doing a test now.
     
    Last edited: Apr 4, 2007
  21. FusionZ06

    FusionZ06 /\__/\__/\__0>

    Joined:
    Apr 10, 2004
    Messages:
    86,918
    Likes Received:
    0
    Location:
    Sunshine State
    It's only good if you are trying to shoot one thing.

    Let's say my goal is to shoot this statue.

    Shoot in raw you don't have to worry about exposure and wb near as much as you do with JPEG.

    However if I plan on taking tons of pictures it's a big pain in the nuts and waste of space to shoot raw.
     
  22. Tedrzz

    Tedrzz New Member

    Joined:
    Jul 6, 2005
    Messages:
    1,578
    Likes Received:
    0
    Location:
    Brooklyn, NY
    saying RAW is a big waste is very very subjective.

    for someone with a 800mhz desktop with 256k of RAM and 40 gigs of memory it might be a big waste

    but someone with a 3ghz desktop with 4 gigs of RAM and a terabyte of memory..why the fuck not?

    personally i don't shoot raw but i don't really have the hard drive space for it. if i had a huge ass hard drive and plenty of RAM i wouldn't see any reason not to.
     
  23. FusionZ06

    FusionZ06 /\__/\__/\__0>

    Joined:
    Apr 10, 2004
    Messages:
    86,918
    Likes Received:
    0
    Location:
    Sunshine State
    :ugh:
     
  24. jared_IRL

    jared_IRL OT Supporter

    Joined:
    Feb 12, 2006
    Messages:
    17,737
    Likes Received:
    55
    What the hell are you talking about?

    Shooting raw is no more of a pain in the ass than shooting in jpg. The only difference is you open your photos in adobe bridge or lightroom, instead of photoshop. Space also doesn't have to be an issue either, if you're prepared.

    Taking care to set your white balance and exposure are part of being a photographer, no matter what format you're shooting.

    If the only reason someone is shooting raw is to be able to get around having piss poor technique, then they're an asshole.

    You shoot in raw to get 16 bit depth, lossless, uncompressed images. If you don't know how important that is, I won't bother explaining it.



    I have no idea what your point about 'shooting a statue' vs. shooting 'a ton' of pics is supposed to mean, so i'm just going to ignore it.
     
  25. MTech

    MTech New Member

    Joined:
    Mar 3, 2007
    Messages:
    1,862
    Likes Received:
    0
    :run:
     

Share This Page