A&P Nikon 12-24 or 105 VR Macro?

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  1. xenon supra

    xenon supra OT Supporter

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    I just sold my Sigma 10-20 for $450 ($50 more than I bought it for).

    I'm debating between upgrading to the Nikon 12-24 f/4 or giving the 105 VR Macro a try.

    My widest lens right now is the 28-70 so that's not very wide at all. I will likely purchase one right now and the other in a few months. I'm debating which one I want first. I'm dying to do some macro stuff, but I think I may actually need the 12-24.

    28mm on a crop body isn't very wide at all :hs:

    Just curious what you guys think. I'm leaning towards the Macro just because I really wanna try it out. Price doesn't matter, they are both in the 600-700 range if I buy used.
     
  2. Steef

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    get the tokina 12-24
     
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    Of these choices, I'd get the 12-24.
     
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    I've shot with my friends tokina 12-24, I prefer the nikon.
     
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    is it worth about 3 times the cost though? :dunno:
     
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    12-24 for sure
     
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    A quick google search said the tokina was 499, I just payed 620 shipped for the nikon.

    I decided to do the 12-24.

    I don't think I can live without those ranges for a few months. I can stand to go without macro shots for the time being.

    Just paypaled the dude on cafe, he's shipping it today :noes:
     
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    Or get the Tamron 90mm and put the money you save vs buying the nikon toward you other lens. :dunno:
     
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    You get $90 rebate too if you buy before 12/31/08
     
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    ah, yea. i wasn't thinking of the f/4. i'm sure you'll be happy with your choice.
     
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    12-24 duh.
     
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    tamron 90mm 2.8

    Tokina 11-16 2.8

    /thread.
     
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    I'd prefer to have the VR because I plan on doing a lot of handheld stuff for macros.

    I don't know much about the tokina 11-16, but I went with the 12-24 because I need something in between 16 and 28....

    so this gives me.

    12-24
    28-70
    80-200
    50 1.8
     
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    natural light, hand held macros are a recipe for fail.

    Oh, and the VR doesn't work in Macro mode, so you're wasting your time.

    per Thom Hogan: (http://bythom.com/105AFSlens.htm)

    You're also not going to miss from 16 to 28. You're talking about a half step back or forward. It's not that big of a deal... me, I'd rather have the extra f-stop than 8 more degrees....

    but you seem pretty set in your choice, so....
     
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    Oh, and read the rest of that link. Here's another quote for you:

     
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    I am not set on the 105mm but the VR was why I was leaning with it. Maybe I'll research a little more. Thanks for the tips. I don't know a lot about macro stuff yet.

    However, 16-28 is not a step back or forward, but yeah, I am set on the 12-24 because it's already on the way to my house. ;)
     
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    I have shot with both the Nikon and Tokina 12-24 and found absolutely NO difference between the two.

    Having the Tokina 12-24, I feel if I had to do it all over again i'd splurge for the 11-16 instead of the 12-24.
     
  19. Sympathy

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    I have the tamron. I like it. Optically, I think it's comparable to the nikon 105 at the center, but I'm not sure how the optics compare at the borders. I definitely see how the VR, IF, and AF-S on the nikon 105 would be helpful. But I don't know if it would be worth an extra $450. :o
     
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    pretty much the standard in the macro business is to use a flash anyway, so having VR pretty much is worthless.
     
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    especially considering the VR doesn't work at macro levels.
     
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    :h5:
     
  23. isaac86hatch

    isaac86hatch This thread sucks

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    fucking dot

    Tokina 11-16 >*
     
  24. xenon supra

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    having a gap between 16-28 is not what I want. :nono:
     
  25. tenplanescrashing

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    honestly, that "gap" is quite minimal in the whole scheme of things
     

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