GUN New Purcase v.Taurus PT-99

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  1. GFlem

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    Sup bbs

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    Taurus PT-99 - Police trade for $349 (identical to a 92FS, with adjustable sights)
    9mm Para
    15+1 capacity (3 mags included - one of them SUCKS. The spring is completely dead and they hung up compressed :facepalm: )
    Aftermarket Packmayr grips (beefy as hell, even in my hands. I love them already)
    OEM Brazilian maple grips included too.


    Also came with a trigger lock, a year warranty for parts replacement/smithing, a free cleaning/boresighting, a cleaning mat, and a cleaning cloth.


    I's a happy kid today.



    Range Report - Taurus PT99


    Shoots like a dream! :bigthumb:


    Found that its range manners were very nice. Heavy pistol tames the 9mm down superbly. Trigger pull in SA is a hard wish. Did not attempt double action, unfortunately.


    I was using P.O.Ref. for these targets because the sights are degraded to the point that you cannot see color anymore. I'm going to be dialing in the sights once I get some luminescent paint applied.


    I was using bulk FMJs that my dad bought bulk from the Ohio Gun Collector's Association a while back.


    First mag (15 shots, standing @~8 yards, 1 shot per second):

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    Second mag (" ", last six rounds were double-taps)
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    Some flyers but by and large, I'm pretty satisfied. I have a nasty habit of dropping the shots low - not at all used to pistol so I'm not sure what I'm doing to dip them that low, but it's probably me. Need to work on that.
     
  2. GFlem

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    PS - I reposted this from NN, but I'm too lazy to change the pics.

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    I'd lose the reference to the other forum if I were you.
     
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    srsly, though, what causes the shots to drop like that?

    Am I limp-wristing it? relaxing too early? What's the deal?
     
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    I've never seen nor heard of that being an issue. :dunno:
     
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    Post about that place in main and you will get banned.
     
  7. I'd guess you're anticipating the recoil, and instead of a controlled trigger squeeze you're jerking it and tightening your grip, which pulls the gun down as the shot breaks.
     
  8. GFlem

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    I am doing that a bit.

    My concern, I guess, is that the rest of the shots are fine when I'm not using the sights. With that first magazine, the first shots broke low. After I started using point-of-reference instead of down-the-sight aiming I started 10-ringing them.

    :dunno: Weird.
     
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    You shouldn't do that, it's a bad habit watching your target. Stay front sight focused and learn to call your shots. You are shooting low because you are flinching. You need to dry fire.
     
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    If he's looking over the gun immediately after he breaks the shots that could be pulling them low as well. like ab13 said, keep your focus on the front sight through the shot.
     
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    Guess that means I'd better repaint those sights sooner rather than later.
     
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    Not really, just dry fire your gun. It's a hardware issue, not software. Do Bill Drills and learn what that front sight looks like during recoil. It takes a lot of dryfire and live fire.

    Eventually, you will be able to watch that front sight lift, then drop back down to the notch.

    When you get really good, you start seeing shit you NEVER saw before. Shit like grass moving, people in the corner of your eye, all the while the front sight is crystal clear. And I mean crystal clear. Shit moves in slow motion, when I'm shooting it feels like forever. if you are not watching your front sight rise and fall during recoil you are flinching.

    Anyone can pull the trigger fast for a "double tap" (hate that term) but only few can actually put that double tap in the size of a fist "on the move".

    Until you can learn to watch your front sight, you will never get there.
     
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    To quote Sergey, the USA shooting pistol coach.

    "Focus on your god damn front sight!"
     
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    Here's another problem for me, though, maybe you guys can help me out.

    I don't know that I have a dominant eye when it comes to shooting. Ostensibly it's my right eye - I've done the "make a triangle with your hands and move it back" thing, and that's where I end up.

    However, when I'm trying to lock in on my front sight, I get nothing but a doubled-up blur... I see two front-sight dots and 3-4 rear sight dots. I cannot differentiate the dominant-eye sight picture without closing my left. It's to the point where I don't feel comfortable shooting with both eyes open, at all ----- **edit** without using the reference shooting like I talked about before. The improvement in accuracy is VERY noticeable when I stop using the sights and start pointing instead.

    When you guys shoot pistol, is this normal? I.e., is a blurry sight picture normal with both eyes open, and do you just deal with it? Or is it a problem with my eyes and something I should get glasses for?
     
  15. BLH

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    Take a pair of safety glasses and put some semi clear scotch tape over your left eye to obscure the vision. You can keep the other eye open, but it won't actually be focusing on the sight.
     
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    Um...

    So if some dude breaks into my apartment late at night, I'm going to reach for my pistol with one hand and my scotched-up safety goggles with my other?

    I'd rather fix the problem without prosthetics if possible...
     
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    I mean thanks for the tip - if I ever get into competitive shooting, I'll remember, but...
     
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    wow, someone with some fucking sense.
     
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    Look at it as something to help your eyes get use to using the right one to focus on the front sight. Once you get that in your subconscious shot process it is not a problem, think about that one...
     
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    Its not meant to be a permanent thing but a tool used to help train you how to focus with your dominant eye more consistently. I think the last time he asked about it I posted an excellent link that went into great detail about weak dominance eye sight and shooting and included a personal anecdote about having the same problem and the taped lens trick helping me learn to avoid the "switching" problem myself.
     
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    Thank you. :)
     
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    oh, like those little kids that used to wear pirate patches in school for lazy-eye.... but in reverse. Nice!

    I see where you're going with this.
     
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    Can I just wear a pirate patch to the range instead?

    I have a feeling I will be more accepted by my range peers.
     
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    I notice that none of you actually talked about the gun.

    :wtc:
     
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    It just comes down to practice. Yes, when I first started shooting I also got double vision. To be honest, I don't know what exactly it was that got rid if it, but you will eventually get a clear sight picture with BEO.

    It's hard and will take a lot of work, but when was something worthwhile easy?
     

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