but it won't let me boot to a harddrive or boot to a cd if the harddrive is hooked up to the system. I have tried 2 IDE harddrives and 1 Sata harddrive with the same results. Am I missing something stupid because it doesn't seem possible that a mobo could have its sata controller and its ide controller go out at the same time. If no harddrive is in the system, it will boot into the windows installation cd just fine and go through everything until it needs a harddrive. With a harddrive in the system it will either boot a black screen, or one that says "boot to cd press any key" and then it will freeze when you click a key. Any help you guys can give is greatly appreciated.