New GT500 thread; R&T sucks, that's not the real 'stang

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  1. Boomdart

    Boomdart New Member

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    Whilst it may seem that magazines are right, because they're doing their job, they can be wrong too.

    In the real world, the GT500 is an easy low 12 second car, the stock tires are not the best, but there have been much faster times than 13.1 recorded.

    "The people in magazines generally drive conservatively. They don't powershift, they don't warm up the tires, sometimes they don't turn traction control off, and more often than not they run the cars on regular pavement and not a prepped track. Their numbers are typically not where they should be, which is done for a reason. If all the magazines ran the new Cobra to 12.1 while the average guy who takes his car to the track can't break 13's they are going to end up with quite a few complaints, letters, ect. If they low ball the numbers and people consistently run a tenth of a second faster or so the average driver will think they're the next Evan Smith and be happy and content." - anonymous

    "Ofcourse it gets beat by the corvette, everything gets beat by the corvette. Even ferrari's" - anonymous

    Also, the skidpad R&T listed is also very wrong, .87g? Yeah, right. That's what a Mustang GT gets.



    Muscle Mustangs & Fast Fords - 12.257 @ 117.18mph

    Motor Trend - 12.7 @ 116mph

    Car and Driver - 12.9 @ 112mph, .90g
    "The 500-hp figure was obtained using the latest SAE-certified test protocol, so it’s unlikely that the GT500 isn’t delivering the promised ponies. Maybe we were off that day."

    Road & Track - 12.9 @ ???mph (I think it's odd their online site posts a dif. time)
    http://www.roadandtrack.com/article.asp?section_id=2&article_id=3086&page_number=3

    Automobile Magazine - 13.1 @ 115mph (Check out the mph compared to the others) .95g

    Mass Driven - .94g
    SVTperformance - .94g

    It's fairly easy to see that the car is simply hard to start, hard to get traction. However, it's still fast as balls.

    http://www.dragtimes.com/Ford--Mustang-Shelby-GT500-Drag-Racing.html
    Some drag strip times from real people
    http://www.dragtimes.com/Chevrolet-Corvette-Timeslip-8295.html
    Corvette z06 drag time for comparo
    http://www.dragtimes.com/2006-Chevrolet-Corvette-Dyno-Results-Graphs-8827.html
    A chart showing the Corvette's drivetrain losses, for comparison purpose

    "A ballerina's balance is too much to expect of any true muscle car, so there is ample understeer when the Goodyears slide. However, a few laps circulating California Speedway's tight road course revealed a strategy that keeps the Shelby from tripping over its front feet: complete the hard braking with the steering dead straight, turn in gently, then add throttle well before the apex to encourage the rear tires to shoulder their share of the load. Plan B is to hurl the car into the bend, adding full throttle to hang the tail out. That works, but it's neither the tidy nor the quick way around any corner." - Automobile Mag


    As far as upgradability goes, the GT500 with it's 8.4:1 compression ratio and the supercharger you can rig easily with a larger pulley, 650hp doesn't seem out of reach for very, very little money.

    As a final note, everyone needs to realize this is a $40,000 Mustang. Ford themselves said "We could have put IRS and made it lighter, but then it wouldn't have been a $40,000 mustang." Or something along those lines, don't remember off hand. If it were a $70,000 GT500 then it would be pitted against the z06, most likely. However, that is not the case. They created a muscle car, not a lightweight track racer.
     
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  2. Light Speed

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    exactly right. Everything you said was correct.
     
  3. matrix243

    matrix243 My body, is ready.

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    the 12.257 was with the tc off. they ran 12.7 with it on. they say with the right tires, 11's are doable.
     
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    too bad they will be impossible to get, i still want a 03 04
     
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    I agree, 11s are do'able. I believe someone claimed it to have the most restrictive air box of all time, thought that was rather funny. It should be one hell of a car esp with the BPU mods (Pulley, tune, CAI, exhaust). Cant wait for KB to get ahold of it, or even until someone hang turbos off the side!
     
  6. Boomdart

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    I believe it, don't see any reason why not. Hell, what does the car come with? Goodyears?

    And besides, who drags with the TC on? Worthless.

    I'm a Cooper Cobra guy all the way; just make sure you get the good ones (there are different models of the cobra)
     
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    Goodyear f1's... only 255s I believe...
     
  8. Boomdart

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    Aren't there 4 or 5 different F1's? I'm willing to bet it doesn't come with the better ones.
     
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    The GT comes with Nero Zeros I believe. I would hope that they put something more than 255s out back to try to handle that torque.
     
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    matrix243 My body, is ready.

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    285/40/zr18
    255/45/zr18
     
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    OK good, so im not losing my mind! Looking forward to someone hanging 2
    57 trims off the side and see what it can really do.
     
  12. Boomdart

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    Bump for slowness
     
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    still overpriced and overweight.
     
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    i love it how every other mag gets high 12's, and the mustang mag gets 12.2 :rofl:
     
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    Mainstream mags print slow times for virtually everything they test.
     
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    Folkan Please don't tease me...

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    It's still an overweight POS.
     
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    Sell Steve your Monte, buy yourself a GTO. Which weighs less and costs less.
     
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    tuner I know you're thinking bacon and eggs.

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    The GT500 is cool and all but you can't fix the fact that it's still a pig
     
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    Folkan Please don't tease me...

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    I think the Monte would be out of Steve's price range. If it was though I'd put up with driving it to Detroit to sell it.

    As for the GTO I told Rob last Sunday when he was in town that I'm going to end up buying one after Woodward I'm sure :o
     
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    sure you can
     
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    I wish I could bring mine. That'd make three of us representin' y0, perfect for another line-up shot on Woodward. :coolugh:
     
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    Folkan Please don't tease me...

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    That picture is tight as hell.
     
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    :werd: Triple 5R's on that thing and 11's are very doable.
     

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