A&P New DSLR Advice

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  1. Dan-blackline

    Dan-blackline Registered Sex Offender

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    At the moment I'm using a Fuji S5500 P&S, and having discovered that photography is mighty fun, I wanted to upgrade to a DSLR.

    The two ones I'm looking at are the Canon 400d (Rebel XTi) and the Nikon D70s, as their both in my price range of £500 thereabouts.

    I'm going into town tomorrow to try them out and see how they feel, but I want to know whats the difference between the two. I shoot mostly action photos (BMX, mountain bike, skateboard etc) and night time photos, because I love the way you can manipulate light.

    This is what I sorta understand/think at the moment

    Canon

    Better high ISO performance
    Cheaper lenses/more options for extra lenses
    More megapixels
    Dust removal system

    Nikon

    Better build quality (metal over plastic?)
    Better kit lens
    Larger in size
    Faster start up time


    I'm probably wrong with a few of those, and I'm sure that theres a million more points. Anyone want to offer any advice?

    Preferably with reasons, not just "Get Canon cos Nikon are shit" or "Get Nikon cos Canon users are fags" etc.
     
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    nikon d70s is not a metal frame.
     
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    no hasselblad no care
     
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    if you want to shoot long night exposures i would suggest canon. i shoot nikon and fully acknowledge that nikon's long exposure noise is awful.
     
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  7. If you have to choose between canon 30d and nikon d200 I'd say get the d200.

    If it were between the nikon d80 and the canon rebel xti. I would say get the xti, only because SD cards are for gays. Well actually what kind of memory does your camera that you have now use? Probably uses SD right? If you went with Nikon d80 you can continue using your SD craps i mean cards.
     
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    Airpoppoff Vodka > Racing F1

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    Yes, D200 for first DSLR, FTW :ugh2:
     
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    Dan-blackline Registered Sex Offender

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    Nah, it uses XD cards, ftl definately.

    If I could afford a D200 I probably wouldn't be asking peoples opinions on what camera to buy.
     
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    :werd: I think he should couple it with a nice leaf back.
     
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    Dude straight up I found an SD card on the ground, bent over to pick it up and already had 3 guys dicks in my ass. No joke- only gay people use htem.
     

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  13. Ask alot of kids these days what their first car was...



    "Oh my first car was a WRX.." or EVO... or 06 Mustang.... :ugh2:


    D200 for first camera is not that big of a deal... :rolleyes:
     
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    yeah SD cards are so gay :ugh2:
     
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    it doesn't fucking matter
     
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    Airpoppoff Vodka > Racing F1

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    I never thought of it that way :hs:

    It's just a car payment :hs:
     
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    Dan-blackline Registered Sex Offender

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    After trying them out in Jessops today the Nikon feels a lot nicer. It jut seems when you hold it your fingers are already in the right places, whereas it wasn't really with the Canon.

    Also the Canon's tiny, I knew they were smaller but I swear its even smaller than my Fuji. Nikon fitted in your hand so much nicer.

    So far Nikons ahead, but its hard :(
     
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    I see you got a lot of help in here. :)

    The Xti for a first is a good one to start with. Look at ISO ratings and other available options and make your assessments on that. Chances are that once you see what the kit lens does vs others, you'll be buying new lenses anyway.

    I do like Nikon but I weighed the differences between that and Canon and went with the Xti.
     
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    Thank you. Finally someone that gets it.

    There isn't any real difference between the two cameras, functionally. Either one will allow you to take a good picture, so get the one that you are most comfortable with. People on this website, or any other website, can't tell you which one is better suited for your personal preferences.

    That's why this Nikon vs Canon debate is so useless, the features in the cameras are commodity at this point, and neither one is better. They both do exactly the same damn thing, particularly in the hands of a beginner (no offense). Look at your pros for the cameras:

    Canon
    Better high ISO performance (really, how often will you shoot above ISO 800? 5% of the time? Why is this a feature for you?)
    Cheaper lenses/more options for extra lenses (how many lenses do you really plan on buying?)
    More megapixels (are you printing posters or just posting to the internet/email?)
    Dust removal system (Giotto's Rocket: $10, why do you NEED this)

    Nikon
    Better build quality (metal over plastic?) (Planning on doing photojournalism in a warzone are you?)
    Better kit lens (this is the only semi-decent point, but you can get a non-kit and put a better than kit lens with it anyway.)
    Larger in size (personal preference and subjective, but I agree)
    Faster start up time (it's measured in milliseconds...how fast do you need, seriously)

    When you objectively look at the "features" that the companies marketing machines tout you quickly realize that they aren't all that important in daily life and when you get down to it, it doesn't fucking matter, as Spider said.
     
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    Dan-blackline Registered Sex Offender

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    I'm a fag who over researches and over analysizes everything before buying anything :hs:

    I think I'm going for the Nikon, ergonomics were far far better.
     
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    Me too. :)

    I shoot live events at 1600 every time.
    I have 5 lenses.
    and yeah I'm doing production work so MP is vital.

    The variables mean something to those who want to do something other than
    take a snapshot.

    I should have spent the extra cashola and got a 30D. :)

    Good job on your purchase!
     
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    turbodude Just a photographer OT Supporter

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    k10d? k100d? probably alone on this one but i have used a k100 and they are very nice for the price, and k10d should be out very soon.
     

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