New car w/ NO CLEARCOAT

Discussion in 'That'll Buff Right Out' started by Stev1ous, Aug 12, 2004.

  1. Stev1ous

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    How should I go about to make the paint smooth?

    -Clay bars are mostly used when there is embedded dirt and grime in the paint right? So theres no point to use one on a new car correct?

    Since VM removes oxidation as well, what about using VM then S100?. B/C this is a new car w/o CC, would it be a good idea to store it with some type of sealent like EX?

    In this picture, it was just waxed w/ 2 coats of S100, yet still feels a lil rough. This is for a '04 Mercury Monterey.
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    *EDIT* Question: EX = w/ carnuba? ... therefore if I was to top it off w/ S100, then might as well get EX-P then S100 on top?
     
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    no clear? :eek4: i wonder if my moms 04 merc g.marquee has CC :eek4:
     
  3. Don_Rumsfeld

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    You need to use cleaner wax.

    Pure carnuba will not help oxidized one stage.

    I had a red ford truck with single stage - what a PITA - Needed to be waxed one a month at least to stay from turning dull.


    Use a cleaner wax like meg's or mother's cleaner - it will get the oxidation off.

    Then top it with the s100.
     
  4. Geoffman72

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    I'm a bit confused by this post. About the part asking if since its a new car the paint doesnt need cleaning, it more than likely will especially if it was transported by rail.

    Rail dust is a common contaminant in new car paint. Every damn new black ford at the dealer I work at almost looks metal flake if you get close enough.
     
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    Very true. In addition, car sit on the lots sometimes for several months. They are sprayed off regularly with deionized water (which doesn't spot) but they are allowed to air dry, so while they are wet, any dust, pollen, etc floating by lands on the paint and eventually, all that gunk builds up. You should definitely clay.

    Are you sure the paint is single stage? The only one I know still doing single stage paint is Lexus and only on black.
     
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    That's what I don't get. All the stock paint colors have cc for this model, but the dealership was trying to convince to pay $600 more for clearcoat wax "that can last up to 6 yrs, you don't have to wax your car for 6 yrs" which i think is complete BS. I'll try using a clay bar along w/ VM then top it off w/ S100. OR clay, VM, EX-P then S100 or is that too much? Thanks.
     
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    I bet your car has clearcoat, the dealership was just blowing smoke up your ass.
     
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    Scam. Don't let them touch it and I would notify the zone manager they are misrepresenting the paint job. You do have a clear coat, they are trying to sell you a $600 application of a $10 sealant.
     
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    :werd: Dealerships suck at detailing :down:
     
  10. Don_Rumsfeld

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    :uh:
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    Dude, that doesn't mean your car doesn't have a clearcoat.

    They were just trying to sell you a "Clearcoat protectant" - not the clear itself.

    You can't just go back and clear coat a car.
     
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    Why not? How do they apply the clearcoat to begin with?
     
  12. Don_Rumsfeld

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    Not after the paint gets full of impurities - ingrain dirt - water spots etc.

    I mean you could - but it wouldn't look as good or last as long


    Unless you wetsanded the base maybe
     
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    At the dealership I work at, id say 90% of new deliveries are clayed. At least, everything except silver, and silver most of the time.

    Rail dust is bad for stuff not near a port, but even with rail eliminated for us (nissan ships to port in vancouver, goes by truck to us 30 min away), cars sit outside for a LONG time, and they need it.
     
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    sand existing paint with a sotch bright or 1000 gritt then then spray on some more usaly ends up looking worse
     
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    The base (color) coat in a two stage (base coat/clear coat) is different than single stage paint. Normally, the base coat has very little shine, it is the clear coat that has all the gloss, plus the base coat is very thin.
     
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    I'm incredibly jealous. I would probably be fired if I even touched a clay bar.

    At the piece of garbage Ford dealer I work at, I am the only delivery prep guy. As I am the only one seeing as they are too cheap to hire more people, they want me to crank these cars out with a basic interior going over (more so for the used cars) and a basic wash, maybe wax if its black assuming I have enough time in the hour they deem me per car. :rant2:
     
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    Which Ford dealer do you work for?
     
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    i work for lexus and 99% of our new cars get sent to the detail place down the road, i dont think they claybar them but they all get buffed and waxed. then they are washed mon-wed-fri on the lot and dried, once every other week or so they are washed with soap. we charge like $600 for the paint sealant and the detail place charges us $29 i think at most
     
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    I work right down the street from there, on O'Connor Road.
     
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    Where on O'Connor? Tell me Corning Tropel...

    Oh, and I finally had enough free time at work to clay out a new '03 Taurus we still have for the showroom and topped it off with a hard yellow wax. DAMN did it turn out smooth!
     
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