New build suggestions

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  1. negative zero

    negative zero New Member

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    Looking for some suggestions on a new build.

    Looking to replace my 3.2 intel system. I don't care of it's AMD or intel. I already have 3 GB of RAM . it's pc 3200 Dual Channel. Really don't want to replace it if it will do the job on a new mobo.

    CPU fan is a zalman CNPS9500. Not a big deal to lose but I haven't had it long and it was ~$50.

    I already have a decent vid card. Not latest and greatest though.
    XFX 6800GT 256MB, but it's AGP. Should I go pci-e? don't I need a special power supply for pci-e?

    So I need:
    mobo
    cpu
    RAM (can I still use above?)
    video card (unless I use above)
    power supply (If I go with pci-e vid card???)
    case- unless I re use my super lanboy. but it's a tight fit.

    Any suggestions? Can I do this for ~600?
     
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    Doc Brown Don't make me make you my hobby

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    One thing against the old parts, with the exception of the Zalman, is that all the new stuff is pci express, and a lot faster memory.

    So there's probably not any upgrade you could do with those parts that's worth doing. There are 7800gs agp cards, but for the same money you could do a much better 7900/7950 card.
     
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    Doc Brown Don't make me make you my hobby

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    Here's a possible way to go for you. This mobo handles several intel cpu's, so you might be in luck.

    I'm hearing good things about these 965 Gigabyte boards and overclocking.
    $116 at Newegg
    http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16813128017


    1gb of OCZ Gold memory. 2x512 for dual channel.
    Then you can add another gb at a later date.
    $118 at Newegg
    http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16820227126


    And eVga 7950GT 512mb video card
    $306 after $10 rebate at Newegg
    http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16814130066

    You could probably get some recommendations for Ati cards as well,
    but I'm not up to date on them enough to be able to suggest anything.

    That comes to $550 before shipping.

    If you throw a few extra dollars in there, you could get an Antec True Power psu for around $90.
    And you will most likely not be able to use your old one on this build.
     
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    Thanks for all the info Emmet

    First of all I think my 3.2e chip is dead. Will be testing it out tonight over at my brother-in-laws hopefully.

    And you are right about the power supply. I'll need a new one.

    You think for $1000 I could get:

    cpu - e6600 $315

    RAM - OCZ 2GB $233 after MIR

    Mobo- Asus p5b-e $158

    power supply- Antec 550 $87

    case - ???

    Video card - ???

    I don't think I can get a case and video card for ~200. I could always get the e6400 and put the $100 towards video card. Can you recommend another video card that still performs well but isn't as expensive?

    Just curious what you think about SLI? Should I be looking to build a system that can take advantage of that? I don't see many that support dual core and SLI unless I am missing something. WOuld the above system (with a decent video card) run games pretty good?
     
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    Doc Brown Don't make me make you my hobby

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    The 7950gt would be quite a bit faster than your old card.

    It would play just about anything out there at the highest, or near highest video settings.

    As far as SLI for Core 2 Duo goes, the only board I know of is the Asus P5N32-SLI Premium $220 at Newegg. (but this is probably changing by the day)
    http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16813131071

    You could use that board and some midrange video cards for SLI on a budget.

    But the P5B-E is a great board for overclocking. Anandtech got the E6600 to 3.6ghz with that board.

    Or you could even go with a dual card on the the P5B-E, but those are high dollar cards.

    If you want to stay near $1,000 then you probably will go with the P5B-E and the 7950gt.

    I think instead of skimping on the video card, I would just get the 1gb of memory.

    Plus, you would be surprised at how little difference the extra 1gb makes, most of the time.

    And anyway, it's easier to add memory at a later date than change video cards.

    So you would have:

    Intel E6600 $315 w/s&h
    1GB OCZ $123 w/s&h
    Asus P5B-E $164.40 w/s&h
    Antec 550 $87 w/s&h
    eVga 7950GT $311.63 w/s&h after $10 rebate
    $1001 without case, but you could use the old one for now.

    If you want to stretch your budget for the case, expect to add $100 or more for a solid case.

    I like the P180 from Antec. Very solid. Removable drive cages, and 120mm tri-cool fans.

    $140 shipped at Newegg this weekend. Pretty good deal for a great case that is quiet.
    http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16811129154
     
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    thanks again Emmet. I'll take a look at the links you posted. After I posted I saw where there is suppose to be a P5B-E 1.02g released sometime. Seems like it may be another good choice.



    Maybe a few days I'll make up my mind and order. there's just so much out there now that it's alittle overwhelming.
     
  9. Doc Brown

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    I wouldn't worry about the small differences within a hardware category (with the exception of video cards)

    Abit, Gigabyte, Asus, all of them are going to do a rocking job for you. (and probably others as well)

    I think Intel might have worked extra hard with vendors for Core 2 Duo, because it seems that every motherboard that I read about is working well with it.

    Some rules of thumb to go by:

    If you plan on overclocking, use highend memory.

    If you don't plan on overclocking, save your money because
    the highend memory won't matter.

    Also, don't be caught up in the hype of going with 2g as a must have thing.
    It's not. If you need to save some bucks somewhere, do it here as you can always add more later. Here's a link to a great benchmark test done on ddr400. You will use ddr800, but the results will still apply.

    http://www.gamepc.com/labs/view_content.asp?id=ddr400myths&page=1&cookie%5Ftest=1&MSCSProfile=95385A1F52DEA1A229D5B375420544642F7BF49B5F0DBA65047EAADF976CBA5642386B5484D68EAF1AE59D5F221F08A9B657A75E2D04D7FF97DF2470103EB0E88414DE2EE13D7BF888F4BFAB5BF9446041D67B8320FD6DE3D8EC2496327DD5F6A3CB5863F0C674F872C761C1D51236F5C0176F93CA51EE9AC077712B683700ED8877DBB8F341C481

    The E6600 Core 2 Duo has a 4mb chache. That's the main reason
    you see so many people starting at that level of Core 2 Duo.

    Abit, Asus, and Gigabyte boards will overclock well with Core 2 Duo.

    If you plan on not doing any overclocking, then go with an Intel board.
    It will be more stable in the long run than any of the other brands.


    Go with a 500+ Watt psu for a single highend graphic card, 650 or more for two cards.
     

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