Need suggestions on build.

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  1. saleen1_sr

    saleen1_sr Active Member

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    I wanted some opinions on this build, I am mainly going to be playing games and watching movies on it. I plan on buying crisis and bioshock for this so if you think I need to change something, suggestions are welcome.

    Already have a 500 Gb hard drive, and LCD monitor, and my brother says he has a good PSU for me, so ill update on that later, but what would be the suggested amount of watts for this machine?

    I do plan on overclocking the CPU/video card, doubt I need to overclock the RAM. This will be my first build and I’ve had no experience overclocking anything so if there are any precautions I should take please let me know. Ill probably be using online tutorials for the overclock.

    Motherboard - http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813128064

    $179.99 + shipping

    RAM - http://www.clubit.com/product_detail.cfm?itemno=A4308035&CMP=BAC-IOTW x2

    $39.98 after rebates + shipping (Don’t really need 4 gb of RAM right? But at that price….?)

    Video Card- http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814130286

    $149.99 after rebates + shipping

    Processor - http://www.zipzoomfly.com/jsp/ProductDetail.jsp?ProductCode=10005520&prodlist

    $168.90 free shipping

    Case - http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811103011 Ill probably buy an extra 120mm fan if needed to add on the case.

    $119.99 + shipping

    TOTAL - 658.85 + shipping
     
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    get an 8800 series card
    ugly case
     
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    now is that suggestion based on the need to stroke your e-cock or legit need?


    I'm trying to piece together a new system and I really can not afford a pair of 8800 series cards, nor do I really think I'll need their full capability, so I was looking at 8600 series cards.
     
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    The 8600 series card has 32 stream processors.
    The 8800GT has 112, the 8800GTS (G92) and GTX has 128.
    The 7900GS/GT and ATI's X1950 XT also kicks it's ass.

    8600 is garbage.

    Google benchmarks/reviews/etc if you don't believe me.
     
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    go w/ 8800, don't bother with sli in my opinion if thats what you're considering

    also, on the same website, go look at top 10 sellers, switch to the corsair xms2 memorry instead, i think the timings were faster on that, proably worth it for the moeny and slightly better brand.

    eidt: also, you don't need to spend that much on a case with good cooling. personally, i spent around there too, but half the price will be just as good pretty much. all you'd have to do is buy a pci slot fan and maybe another 5 star fan from newegg.
     
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    Is that express 2.0 card compatible with the motherboard I chose?

    As far as the case, im mainly worrying about cooling which is why I liked the huge two 250mm fans + 120mm fan on back. But if I can get away with buying a cheap case and only buying the pci/seperate fan as stated above, im all for it. Links to any cases?

    Found the corsair memory with 4-4-4-12 timings at $37 after MIR as to the $19.99 MIR OCZ 5-5-5-12.

    As for that PSU, it's a thermaltake 430W...doesn't that brand suck? And the watts too low?
     
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    http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811119104

    One portion fo someone's review for this case:


    There are SO many on newegg. Just sort by lowest price and see which has the most open slots for fans, or use advanced search to see which has 2 120 mm fans.

    I have the NZXT Lexa case, which is overkill for cooling (rear fan, HDD fan, both 120, two 80mm top and bottom fans, one PCI slot fan. It's also just as expensive as your original choice. IMO Not worth it, cuz I'm not running WD raptors or anything, not even a hardcore vid card. I am running 3 HDDs though, but theres a fan in front of them for cooling.

    If I were to do it again, I'd go with a case similar to this and buy good replacement fans that have good reviews and move lots of air, maybe also a fan controller for a 5.25 drive bay (this shit gets LOUD).
    PCI slot fans move air like crazy, so go with one of those with good reviews. Don't spend too much, but don't buy cheap unreviewed products either.

    good luck
     
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    I found one for $24.99 after MIR and ill definitely be buying it unless someone can find a better deal.

    http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811119129

    I actually didn't even know newegg had that sort by fans feature.:o Ill look into that PCI fan more as well, never heard of anyone using them. As long as it doesn't take up too much space should be fine.

    Thanks for the help so far everyone.
     
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    Yeah it's just a fan that fits into any PCI slot. Sometimes it takes up 2 slots of room. ANd there are bigger fans specifically made for 2 slots also. They push looots of air, just check reviews on newegg first. I doubt you have much else besides a graphics card and maybe 1 other PCI slot component, so you should have room for it.

    The first one is similar/maybe the same as what i have: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produ...N=40000573&Description=pci+fan&name=Case+Fans
     
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    don't bother with those PCI slot fans.
    they are either just too noisy and break often

    you are on the right track if you invest in a case with good cooling
    another ugly case with good cooling is the Antec 900
    you may want to consider that
     
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    In my experience (I have one PCI slot fan in my PC right now, so do friends of mine), the life of PCI fans is equivalent to any 80-120mm fan, and they blow out a lot of air compared to fans that ship with the cases. They are noisier though.

    The case he chose isn't bad at all, two 120mm fans, and if he adds a PCI fan he'll be able to keep hsi temperatures low enough for the hardware he has. The cost of the original case is not worth saving a few degrees in temps as i don't think it'll make a significant difference in the longevity of his components...just my opinion :)
     
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    Check out the raidmax smilodon case. Its SOOOO easy to use... no tools required, and has great cooling.

    Also, check out the HD3870 vid card. Its a tad cheaper than the new 8800's and still kicks major ass. 320 stream processing units, 512mb GDDR4 256bit etc etc....
     
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    Whats the deal with PCI express 2.0, is it compatible with the motherboard I chose? I thought i could only get x16.
    Doesn't NVIDIA > ATI?

    What about the RAM and PSU?
     
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    PCI Express 2.0 is backwards compatible.

    Yes, Nvidia > ATI

    RAM if fine.

    PSU is crap.
     
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    What are good PSU brands/prices and would I be looking at 700w with a overclocked E6550/8800. Would I even need to overclock the card for bioshock/crysis?
     
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    Antec PSU's are good. Mine crapped out, but they're supposed to be one of the best. Just keep your receipts for warranty work, if you ever need it. :)
    Anything 5 starts on newegg is probably fine

    An 8800 would run crysis fine, but you wouldnt get all the best settings. it'd look great though, OCing could make alittle difference, not sure exaclty on that.
     
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    I think ATI has good stuff, they just need to work on their drivers. The HD3870 performs barely under the 8800, maybe 10fps on average, but is like $70 less.

    (for the record, I have a 3870 and it runs like 100fps in WoW with all settings maxed at 1680x1050 with full aa and af)
     
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    Going to buy this and will wait for sales on mobo, proc, and vid card.

    [​IMG]

    Good to go?
     
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    Doc Brown Don't make me make you my hobby

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    The new Intel cpu's are coming out right about now.

    The E8400 is going to be total badass for around $200, as soon as you can find one.

    I think it's 3.0ghz with 6mb of cache.
     
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    The only difference is the multiplier
    e6550 = 333 x 7 = 2.33GHz stock
    e6750 = 333 x 8 = 2.66GHz stock

    when you overclock, say 400FSB
    e6550 = 400 x 7 = 2.8GHz oc'd
    e6750 = 400 x 8 = 3.2GHz oc'd

    in short, the E6750 is better overall if you want higher overclocks.

    but let's say you are satisfied or only managed 3.0GHz, the e6550 can definitely reach that speeds and by getting it instead of the e6750, you were able to save $15.
     

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