A&P Need some advice on how to setup this shoot the best...

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    Note: I'm not really getting paid to do this it's more for the experience. So...with that said.

    It's going to be a person sitting on a motorcycle or standing right next to it.

    They want to shoot between 5-9pm. The shot's will be 100% cropped out (so the background doesn't matter) and used in different media formats.

    We have two strobes with a wireless trigger and I have an SB-600 as well.

    D300 + Battery Grip will be the main body - BU will be S5 Pro and D50
    Lenses:
    18-200mm - of course ;)
    50mm f/1.8
    Tamron 90mm f/2.8
    Nikon 24-70mm
    Sigma 10-22

    How would you set it up?
     
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    Before I answer, what is the intent of the picture going to be? Where is it going to be used?
     
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    What type of magazines? Time? Playboy? All of these dictate how you should shoot it..
     
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    Motorcycle magazines.
     
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    I'd light each side at approximately 90 degrees from camera and use the SB-600 for fill light. I'd probably use the 50mm lens.
     
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    I'd use the 24-70 for flexibility
     
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    Which side would the umbrellas go on. I know this is a noob question. The silver one on which side and the white one on which?
     
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    How would you position the SB600 for fill in the back? Directly on? Stoffen?
     
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    doesn't really matter. what will make a difference is how big they are (bigger= softer light, more power to illuminate) and distance (closer up = softer light, farther away = harsher light)

    directly on what?
     
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    Like fired directly on the subject?
     
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    You mean have it mounted directly on your camera? That kinda contradicts the whole purpose of having off camera lighting in the first place. Especially if you are using umbrellas, you won't really need to have your flash on camera. Take it off and put it directly behind the subject as a rim light. Your biggest challenge will be lighting the subject and the bike well. The bike has tons of shiny parts on it which will make lighting it rough. If I were you I would figure out the lighting on the bike first to get good details, and then have the model come in when you are ready for him/her. That way they won't be standing around being bored. You'll be able to directly work with the model this way and get the best expressions and body gestures while not having to worry about lighting this way.
     
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    if you are goin to be cutting this out you'll definitely want a rim/back light to help separate your subject from your background. :cool:
     
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    would the SB-600 be sufficient?
     
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    Yes. Just remember shutter speed controls ambient exposure. Just remember shutter speed controls ambient exposure. Just remember shutter speed controls ambient exposure. Just remember shutter speed controls ambient exposure. Just remember shutter speed controls ambient exposure. Just remember shutter speed controls ambient exposure.

    So if you aren't getting enough light on your subjects because it's too bright or dark adjust your shutter speed.
     
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    Yeah I understand that shutter speed and a max of 1/250th sync speed.
     
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    So if I used the 24-70mm

    So @ 24 I'm thinking like f/11 and 1/100th that sound about right? ISO 200
     
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    At sunset? Or what? I'd probably say f/8 or f/5.6 @ 1/60th might be more appropriate
     
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    This is the problem there will be zero other light.

    We are probably going to get a few flood lights.

    We are setting up like a cube to shoot in. Like a tent I guess is a better way of describing it.
     
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    Well don't be afraid to push the ISO. Up to 640 should be pretty usable from a D300. Be careful with flood lights, especially in a "tent". Hot as balls, as well as a different color temperature than strobe units so editing it might be a bit rough.
     
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    Yeah that's exaclty what I was thinking the problem then lies in two different colors of light and caca WB :(

    We don't really have an option to do it earlier. Also we can't do it inside anywhere because of the 20 or so motorcycles that have to come.
     
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    Tons of help on this one :mamoru:
     
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    Set your two strobes 180 degrees apart from each other, 90 or so degrees from the camera. You want to light the edges of the person/bike. Set them far enough away to cover the entire person/bike. You probably won't need to modify the flash in any way IF you can get the lights far enough away (say 15') from your subject. If you can't get them any farther away than 10' or less, bounce the light into umbrellas or use softboxes. Make sure the side lights don't send any light into the camera lens.

    Set your on-camera flash and bounce it off a white surface behind you or into an umbrella placed over the camera. Set the exposure for your on-camera flash for a normal exposure. Set your two side lights to give you about a 1/2 to 1 stop more light. Fire away.
     

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