GUN Need recommendation on silencers

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  1. Admitted

    Admitted I shouldn't be on OT right now.

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    One for my AR and one for a .40. I have no idea where to start with these things or about when the form 4's come in. I am mailing out my C&R this week.
     
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    If you have a large spending limit, I would go for M42K as it is one, if not the best, 5.56 suppressors available.

    As for .40, it sucks suppressed. Unless you hand-load, everything factory will be supersonic and won't be hearing safe. A 9mm can is a much better option IMO.
     
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    i want to post my opinion but i know i'll catch shit for being from CA :o
     
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    fuck it.

    buy a surefire :bowdown:
     
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    what does a C&R have to do with a surpressor?
     
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    I started out looking at the M4-2K decided it was too much money, then looked at the M4-1K and decided between that and the YHM Phantom Stainless there was little difference. db reduction is almost the same and the YHM weighs a little more, but it's also shorter.

    So in the end I went with the YHM for $495 including flash hider.
     
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    Why is the Surefire better than the AAC. Have you shot either?
     
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    no :o

    but based on shit i've read and people i know who have shot both, surefire does the best job at not altering POA/POI once you put the can on. from my understanding of their suppressor, you can mount it on any gun with the adapter i.e. AR15, AK-74 in 5.45, bolt gun in .223, etc and it will not change the flight of the bullet :dunno:

    hell, when we were all at the PR match in oregon (me, keesh, jrucker, MG and chip), chip noticed his AAC changed the POI from where it was without the can on :dunno:
     
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    milspec bro, plus it cost more so that means it more tacticool and infinetly better
     
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    :o like i said in the first post i made in this thread
     
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    POI changes are pretty much a given from what I've ever seen. Sure, they can certainly be minimized, but I can't recall seeing/hearing a can that didn't have at least some sort of shift, especially the QD stuff (which is just now, pretty much with AAC leading the way from what I can tell, being used on precision rifles). And what suppressor (with the exception of an integral, obviously) could you not swap around if they all have matching adapters/thread pitches?
     
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    When you put anything heavy on the end of a thin barrel like and AR, no matter what suppressor, you will get a POI change. AAC and Surefire both have done a decent job at minimizing it, like Prozen said, but a POI change will always be there.

    Any barrel that has not been threaded concentric to the bore, is at a high risk for baffle strikes. AK-74 barrels are not even threaded, the front sight block is threaded and is pinned on to the barrel. Using that as a host for a $1000+ suppressor would be a very poor choice.
     
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    The YHMs are great budget suppressors, I've shot them next to a M41K and it was indistinguishable. My feelings is that any.223 suppressed is still pretty damn loud. Personally, spending another $500-$700 for a few extra decibel reduction isn't worth it, but I'm also a cheap-ass.
     
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    evolution .40
    M4-2000 or a SPR/M4
     
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    so .40 is not worth silencing because you have to have manual loads to get subsonic?
     
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    Shit! This thread has made me want to start the process for buying a suppressor for my G17. Worth it?
     
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    You're going to get POI shift with ANY silencer. Get over it. Unless you're using a 10.5" barrel, I really don't know why you'd buy any other AAC can but the SPR/M4. You can mount it on an 11.5" barrel with short gas block like Noveske's. It reflexes back over the barrel, keeping some of the weight more rearward. It has adjustable POI (the POI still changes, but you could get closer to your non-suppressed POI). What does an M4-2k do that it doesn't?
     
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    After doing some research (youtube vids), it seems that 180gr .40 is normally subsonic and so it 147gr 9mm. However, there are hardly any videos of suppressed .40 except where one guy compares them back to back with a usp. 9mm sounds much quieter than .40 while both using subsonic rounds. Any explanation for that? Also seems like a silenced AR is poopy because you still get the sonic crack.
     
  20. Suppressed ARs with 5.56/.223 are really loud still, especially without ear protection.
     
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    Painkiller Sometimes remembering is better than forgetting

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    A 10.5 sounds like a howitzer with no can. With a m4-2000 its ALOT quieter,The difference is like night and day. The sonic crack can still be annoying though.
     
  22. I should have been more clear. I didn't mean to say there's not a difference. They're still rather loud though.
     
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    costs less
     
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    A 100 bucks is not that much.
     
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    147gr 9mm sounds quieter than 115gr 9mm when both are subsonic. I have no idea why, but for a suppressed pistol caliber, 147gr 9mm is the way to go.
     

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