GUN Need an opinion on a CC piece, debating between

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  1. Paulie Walnuts

    Paulie Walnuts Im an agent of chaos

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    a Smith and Wesson .357 and a Smith and Wesson 4013tsw (.40cal compact frame)

    My debate is that I am relatively new to guns (hand) and I want something to carry as I have my CC permit (MN) its hard because the 357 is small and compact and is about 22oz. The 40 is a bit larger and is about 26 oz. I want something that I can play with at the range as well and more and more I think that I would be better off witht he 40. I played with a HK 40 the other night and enjoyed it.

    What are your thoughts on the two?
    Thanks
     
  2. GlocksRock

    GlocksRock Glock > You

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    I think you should not get a S&W.
     
  3. Paulie Walnuts

    Paulie Walnuts Im an agent of chaos

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    Why is that? Anyone have anything worth while to say?
     
  4. footratfunkface

    footratfunkface New Member

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    all i know about smith autopistols is that every police officer that i've ever talked to that's forced to carry one hates them. never ever ever get a smith sigma. ever. smith polymer framed pistols suck. i'd say if you're set on smith, get a wheelgun. if you want something in .40, get a glock, or an xd, or something else.
     
  5. Paulie Walnuts

    Paulie Walnuts Im an agent of chaos

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    Well the 357 is a very very solid gun. I think that I am actually going to get a Kimber .45 for a semi-auto
     
  6. Possum Stomper

    Possum Stomper The Great Bird of the Galaxy

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    can't go wrong with that

    i too have heard that SW autos suck, but is there another company that can match them on revolvers??

    btw - just asking, not implying anything, just so you know
     
  7. GlocksRock

    GlocksRock Glock > You

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    Ruger revolvers are awesome as well, built like a tank, the GP100 is all you need.
     
  8. kellyclan

    kellyclan She only loves you when she's drunk.

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    Being new to guns, a revolver will require less care. You can also use low power .38 Special rounds in the .357 Magnum for practice and full power .357 for protection. Good for a first gun. However, realize that a .357 weighing as little as 22oz is going to KICK, even the .38's will be brisk. Not good for learning to shoot on.

    A semi-auto is usually flatter and easier to conceal however. The SW steel frame guns are fine, just avoid their polymer (plastic) frame guns, as footrat said. The 4013 isn't a bad choice, but their are smaller choices out there better for concealed carry.

    Look at Springfield, Glock, or Kahr for some good compact choices in semi-automatics.
     
  9. spankaveli

    spankaveli OT Supporter

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    Any kahr (this is what I carry)
    subcompact glock

    don't carry a revolver. And for god's sake not a Smith
     
  11. GlocksRock

    GlocksRock Glock > You

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    Thank you.
     
  12. OPM Inc.

    OPM Inc. OT Supporter

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    What about a subcompact XD? Anyone know anything about those? Want to pick one up.
     
  13. GlocksRock

    GlocksRock Glock > You

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    I haven't held one, but I would rather have a subcompact glock. I don't like the ugly super tiny accessory rail on the front, or the stupid grip safety.
     
  14. Car54

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    I'll put a vote in for subcompact glocks. Thats what I carry and I love it.
     
  15. footratfunkface

    footratfunkface New Member

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    subcompact is too small for me. i'll stick to the compact.
     
  16. OPM Inc.

    OPM Inc. OT Supporter

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    Whats the subcompact glock called?
     
  17. GlocksRock

    GlocksRock Glock > You

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    There is the 9mm Glock 26, the .40 cal Glock 27, and the .357 Sig Glock 33. Or if you want a more potent cartridge, you can elect the Glock 30 in .45, or the 10mm Glock 29, both are the same size, which is inbetween the compact and subcompact sizes, but they are a bit thicker.

    www.glock.com
     
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    Or a Kahr

    Maybe G26/27
     
  19. GlocksRock

    GlocksRock Glock > You

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    I wouldn't suggest the makarov, it is a harder round to find (9x18). But from what I hear, they are great guns.
     
  20. spankaveli

    spankaveli OT Supporter

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    9x18 isnt THAT hard to find, as long as you can wait a few days and order it online
     
  21. footratfunkface

    footratfunkface New Member

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    the brady bill doesn't require waiting periods. your state's laws do. because there are many states where you can buy a firearm, handgun or long gun, as soon as the background check has run, which takes about 5 minutes for us, on a weekday, during normal hours. i think that changes if the people who operate the background checking stuff are all at home, such as at night and on weekends.
     
  22. GlocksRock

    GlocksRock Glock > You

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    Oh yeah, I didn't even think about online ammo sales, cause I never do that.
     
  23. spyder007

    spyder007 Bаnned bу Ѕuреr Μоdеrаtоrs

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    Devils advocate here:

    I carry a sw auto at work, like it just fine. The bad guy I killed in November had no arguments when I hit him 3 times with 9mm rounds.

    I also own my own 4053tsw, I like it.

    I also own a sigma, it only sees range use, that's it. I don't trust it enough to carry at all.

    I've been issued 2 glocks in my time. 1 was nothing more than a paperweight. I had barrel problems and glock was being a pita about fixing it. They finally did after much bitching and arguing, so needless to say I'm not much for glocks :) But, I still own 2 :o
     

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