Mystery's VH1 show

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  1. NCS

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    For you guys who are in any way related to the pick up community -

    what are your thoughts on Mystery's upcoming VH1 show. its no secret anymore, it premieres on aug 6 and is a reality show in which he trains guys to pick up.

    Which means that we'll probably see live pick ups, a lot of routines, etc.

    What kind of an impact will a show like this have on YOUR game and why? Are you planning on changing anything about it?
     
  2. antihero

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    Is it just me or do pick up gods not translate to video? When i first found out about PUA I read some stuff and was somewhat impressed. Every video of style, mystery, juggler, etc that I saw made me completely lose all respect for them.
     
  3. jonno

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    mystery is out of his rocker anyway. no doubting he gets mad chicks... but i mean... he's OUT THERE. i'd be more concerned if david D. did a show like this.
     
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    Not sure how it will effect my own personal game... very little if at all, but I really don't follow Mystery Method.

    I did however go out tonight and run into a couple guys that were running Style's opinion openers. They weren't that great, one of them opened the two chicks I came with, and I totally blew him out because I knew exactly what was going on. The set lasted 30 seconds for him.

    Those of us that know what we are doing will not be affected and in fact, could probably use it to our advantages at times.
     
  5. giz

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    I agree.
     
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    who the fuck is mystery
     
  7. Falconer

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    I didn't know this.

    I was just listening to one of the Mystery Method CDs today and they were talking about "... guys who will be blown out of the water if 'The Game' gets made into a movie and chicks see the 'Jealous Girlfriend Opener' or the 'Best Friends Test'..." I was like hmmm...

    So I have two thoughts on this.

    1. It sucks.

    2. I guess it will only serve to evolve pick-up to the next level. It's kind of like when Brazilian Jiu-jitsu was unstoppable. Then they started teaching it to "everyone." What happened? Two things. 1. It lost its edge because everyone was learning it and how to defend against it. 2. MMA completely evolved to a new level and effective MMA is much more efficient than effective MMA 10 years ago. However, everyone knows it now, too.
     
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    xD

    Dating meta-game
     
  9. Falconer

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    Hopefully it won't turn into this:

    Me: "Hey, can I get a quick female opinion on something?"
    HB: "Fuck you! I saw that show on VH1. You can't pick me up you asshole!"
     
  10. JohnJohnJohnson

    JohnJohnJohnson Effetely Sipping My Latte OT Supporter

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    this has already happened.
     
  11. JohnJohnJohnson

    JohnJohnJohnson Effetely Sipping My Latte OT Supporter

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    :rofl: :rofl:

    If you think that's gonna make her start avoiding confident men.. all that seduction shit is what "HOT" guys do NATURALLY... good luck turning her gay.

    I'm going to tell my son that women use their large breasts and round asses to attract men - sometimes going so far as to work out in the gym to artificially improve the shape of their bodies.

    Watch out, son!
     
  12. JohnJohnJohnson

    JohnJohnJohnson Effetely Sipping My Latte OT Supporter

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    That would have been true some time ago.

    Game is natural these days. There's only one difference between the "confident" guys you are talking about and a successful PUA, and it's not visible: the former learned what he knows through osmosis and a positive environment (so he doesn't actually know what he's doing right), whereas the latter learned what he knows by studied acquisition.

    Both of these guys - NOT just the PUA - will have little "cracks" in their game that let through some signs of unconfidence. Furthermore, PUA's can blow out naturals, so the game is rigged against osmosis.

    That's why you only have two options. Immunize your daughter successfully against confident men and PUA's ... or fail to immunize her against both.

    A guy who has women throwing themselves at him WILL be confident with women. You are hoping for some kind of distinction that isn't there.
     
  13. JohnJohnJohnson

    JohnJohnJohnson Effetely Sipping My Latte OT Supporter

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    That's vague of you :)
     
  14. NCS

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    there's a huge chance this will happen. IMO the show can only hurt the very beginnings of an approach. now, if the chick likes your vibe she may still say this and that means its a shit test and blow through it.

    All i know is personally, i'm going to think twice about using opinion openers. And the bottom line is i really do wonder, even if the girl has seen the show, will it change anything? as long as the only words you're repeating is "can i get your opinion on something" will it work against you. if she likes your vibe, will it work against you? i dunno. if she doesn't, it definitely well, and that doesn't matter anyway.

    At the end, PUA's and naturals DO do the same stuff. Once you're good, you're just good. I'm somewhere on an intermediate level, so since i'm still out there practicing, I'm worried about the effects of all this
     
  15. Falconer

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    He's the only guy I really don't have any instruction material from. Links? I know he's an NLP guy but that's the extent of what I know about him.
     
  16. giz

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    David D isn't an NLP guy.
     
  17. Falconer

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    Oh. I thought he was from the Game. I might have him mixed up with someone else.
     
  18. giz

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    He wasn't in The Game. I believe you are thinking of Ross Jeffries.
     
  19. JohnJohnJohnson

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    Juggler?
     
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    I would rank Wayne Elise right up with with David D, yeah.
     
  21. Falconer

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    I believe you are correct.
     
  22. Falconer

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    btw, I wish I knew about this show. If PUA is going to be exploited to the mass public then I at least wish I had been on the show :rofl:
     
  23. NCS

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    juggler's and david d's "methods" are the closest to just being yourself. there are very little routines, very little script, just natural interaction. i need to read juggler's e-book one of these days
     
  24. Shrug

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    i dont know anything about it but sleep easy because rest assured: no one watches vh1
     
  25. KindlyCuddly

    KindlyCuddly Irina Lazareanu

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    Err, that's definitely changed in the past few years.
     

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