GUN my steo dad thinks assault weapons should be banned

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  1. t1h

    t1h Guest

    having lunch with him today, basically he said that all assault weapons are designed to kill and AR-15's and semi auto AK47's can be easily converted to full auto :hsugh: I said what about owning them for shooting at paper targets and water bottles and he repeated that they are only designed to kill. and then he said i want to shoot up water balloons and paper targets to get a pellet gun or a .22.

    i then said what about my m1 garand, its only designed to kill, and then my mom cut us off. I then said, what about my Hakim, its semi auto, can only be semi auto, and only holds 10 rounds. and he said that even 10 rounds is too many. and then I said well you can put in an mg-13 mag with a little work and have it hold 30 rounds, and then he said it should definitely be banned. but then he was ok with my garand because it has a fixed magazine. and he went on about how the gun laws in england have reduced murder there, and I told him about how actually they've increased, and murder by stabbing has increased greatly.

    :hsugh: and I always thought he was pretty level headed because he's conservative republican.
     
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    Soybomb New Member

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    You need to try to get him into a discussion about the purpose of the 2nd amendment :big grin:
     
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    Of course guns are designed to kill. Anyone who thinks otherwise is kinda dumb.
     
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    Paul Revere OT Supporter

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    :rofl: "assault weapons" have been used in less than two percent of crime involving firearms nationwide, and have been used in less than ONE QUARTER OF ONE PERCENT of violent crime involving firearms nationwide BEFORE the ban.

    :hsugh: but they look scary so ban away
     
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    Cannondale OT Supporter

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    My dad wants to buy one. :dunno:
     
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    IT'S NOT WORKING!!! BAN HARDER!!!!!
     
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    Paul Revere OT Supporter

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    why dad wants 2 :rofl:
     
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    you need to let him know about Garand conversions to .308 that take M14 mags. and there are Beta C mags out for that :noes:
     
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    Jumpem OT Supporter

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    The second amendment protects the citizens right to protect themselves from tyranny... by killing people. I hate people that think the second amendment is for hunting and "sporting" purposes.
     
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    Paul Revere OT Supporter

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    last time i checked, the 2nd amendment doesn't mention anything specific.

    it simply says "the right of the people to keep and bear Arms shall not be infringed."

    sure, there has been interpretation as to what it means, but everything you mentioned has been accepted - self defense, hunting, protection from tyrannical government, sporting purposes, defense of the country, and simple ownership.

    you can't say "its for protection of the government NOT hunting and sporting" because it IS for all of those reasons.
     
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    Guns are made to kill plain and simple.
     
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    Paul Revere OT Supporter

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    sure, their DESIGN is for killing, but history has shown us plenty of examples where they have been used in non-violent activities.

    shit, none of my 5 guns have killed anyone, despite the fact thats what they're designed to do :dunno:
     
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    And none of my guns have killed anyone, atleast by me. But their still efficient methods of killing. I dont care they're only usde by whoever for target practice. They're still tools for killing.

    I can use a book as a high chair, but it's still meant to be read.
     
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    xpinchx hes got a nice cock, on the thin side but its stil

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    This thread is already full of aids.
     
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    :werd:

    Just like a hammer is designed to hit things. Be it heads, or nails, or fingers.
     
  18. Dumbstixlars

    Dumbstixlars Ron Paul/AR-15/Glock/old car/Scooby/R/C croo OT Supporter

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    I think your step dad should be banned from the planet.
     
  19. pimpofthenation

    pimpofthenation OT Supporter

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    Guess what he was armed with? Assault rifle? No. .22? Yes.

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  20. Pineapple Devil

    Pineapple Devil beat it!

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    so are samurai swords but they arent banned. i bet there are more injuries and deaths from kids playing with flea market swords than ar15s
     
  21. david_4x4

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    IM sure there probably are and I dont really care.

    Fact remains is that guns are efficient tools for killing.
     
  22. xpinchx

    xpinchx hes got a nice cock, on the thin side but its stil

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    But it's funny this thread comes up now because I recently bought an "AK" clone and the few people I've told about have all asked me "why?"

    Why not? :dunno:
     
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    i dont think anyone is arguing with you on that point.

    lets go back to the assault weapons. despite the fact many think they're scary, and they ARE made for killing, you can't help but look at the real life data that they arent used in crime nearly as much as other guns.
     
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    lobstradomus New Member

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    Tell him that its the assault weapons that preserve his right to have that opinion.... that ought to earn you a smack upside the head if he's anything like my dad ;)
     
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    I bet I could make an AK go full auto with a q-tip.
     

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