My solution to getting GM back on track...easy...get rid of UAW...tell employees to

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  1. Unknown User

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    stop bitching about getting paid crazy amounts of money and do some damn work.

    Instant savings to GM and to the consumers...
     
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    you should be it's CEO since your plan is so simple and fool proof
     
  3. Hartman

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    The problem is, the UAW is more powerful and better funded then GM itself. Hence the reason why the UAW has played a large part in GM's failure.
     
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    :bowdown: 2nded

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    Freakin' word. I can then tell Uncle Sam to fuck off and that we don't need its charity.
     
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    The unions are the number one reason American car companies are failing.

    They spend so much money supporting the union that they cant innovate and build nice cars like the Japs can. Unions in this country became useless once labor laws were written and passed.

    Just today at the grocery store some check out clerk was complaining about the self checkout kiosk, calling them job killers. Did he think he was going to make a carreer out of scanning bannanas?
     
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    I don't know the inner working of organized crime, but what are some cons to a company going bankrupt to tell all its employees that they need to drop the UAW or the company will drop them...they're going bankrupt anyway. Last act of defiance!
     
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    look at the toyota process and how empowering the employee changes the social dynamic of workers vs the man.
     
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    bntboz ACME user text OT Supporter

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    They wouldn't be in such bad shape if they only had to pay the people who were actually still working.
     
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    Ha the people will never let that happen. They would SCREAM bloody murder to all that would listen....government, ACLU, media, EVERYONE.
     
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    coolchrisrm Because if I wear it any place else, it chafes.

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    Where else can a high school dropout make $45 an hour to sweep the floor.
     
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    good luck with GM's riddance of its UAW workers, especially with a democratic congress and president-elect
     
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    :rofl: you mean where else can you show up for 20 years and just play card games in teh break room?
     
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    What people? They're going under anyway, remember?
     
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    Didnt GM offer up a plan about a year ago to completly buy out the union for like 1 Billion? They were going to disband it, and use the savings to turn the company around. Of course the unio called it an attempt at union busting. Now I hope they fail, and they all lose their jobs.
     
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    File bankruptcy and negotiate with the unions

    There is no reason people should be getting paid that much for unskilled labor
     
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    they don't have the guts to do that. they rather let go the white collar workers that actually have things to
     
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    Silver 93 Supra Social Liberal, Fiscal Conservative

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    Its illegal under federal law.
     
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    I bet most of them make more than the engineers there
     
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    I want to believe that the UAW is the problem, but I keep reading that the UAW doesn't cost them as much per car as them trying to 'market' and 'incentive' their way out of the public's assumption that their cars are inferior.

    I can't recall the exact numbers now, but basically they were saying that all things equal, if GM built a car with no union costs, and Toyota built a similar car with no union costs, the GM car would be more because of the amount of marketing and buyer incentives that they have to provide to make up for the fact that people assume GM = garbage.
     
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    fuck GM, let them fail
     
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    The people who belong to the unions. Plus, as mentioned, it's illegal for them to do that.

    And GM is not going bankrupt. It's clear that nanny government has plans to bail them out, which will keep them going for maybe 10 more months, then they'll be in the exact same position again.
     
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    bubbaZR2 i poop too much, then i get tired... OT Supporter

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    On Top Gear they did a story about British Leyland (kinda like british version of GM). The workers were all union, and basically they spent more time on strike than they did anything else and eventually the BL went out of business. Thanks unions. Its all your fault


    $40 dollar/hour "bolt inserters" need to DIAF
     
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    Anyone that works in a white collar environment knows that the average cube or office dweller is no more productive than the average guy bitching about getting underpaid to turn a few lugnuts. Both are over paid, but the pool of lugnut guys just happens to be much greater than the pool of guys who sit in cube all day browsing OT, ESPN, etc.
     
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    It would be a huge blow to this country. Do you know how many people are employed by GM one way or another? It would be very ugly unfortunately. I'm not saying a bailout isn't shitty as well, but its not as simple as fuck them, let them fail. If they fail, most of us will feel heat from it eventually.
     

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