SRS My Partners' back problem

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  1. Bean

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    Okay, so last summer, my partner started having this pain problem with her back. At first it was managable, no big deal, but it rapidly progressed to the point where she can no longer walk properly...

    She went to the doc, and he told her she had degenerative disk disease, and a buldging disk at the base of her spine. We were like, okay, what can we do about it...so, to make a long story short, she's tried epidurals, medication, physical therapy, and nothing is helping her manage the pain. We just got word this morning that she has to have another epidural, which is something that is traumatizing for her, and she's to continue PT, which does nothing for her.

    What I want to know is, are there alternatives that we aren't looking into that may help? I've heard accupuncture is the way to go, but she's deathly afraid of needles (part of why the epidurals are traumatic for her).
     
  2. Toasty

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    Well, she should follow her doctor and PT's advice as best she can. She shouldn't skip sessions nor ignore the routines they give her to do. I can't second guess a professional.

    But if she wants to pursue something like acupuncture, I think she should. I can't stand needles either but I don't find acupuncture scary at all....has she seen those needles? They're barely thicker then thread and they don't poke in very deep either.

    I'm told with a good acupuncturist you won't feel a thing because they target points of "chi", which is a very unscientific way of saying "they know where it doesn't hurt". :)

    I'm going to try it one day myself just out of curiousity.....
     
  3. Bean

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    well, she's not going to stop doing what her doc is telling her, even though it's not helping.

    her insurance doesn't cover accupuncture, so we'll have to pay out of pocket for it. which means it's going to be a while.
     
  4. Peyomp

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    Accupuncture is effective for controlling pain, yes. The main thing is the physical therapy. It may not be doing anything now, but with a shitty attitude it never will. With a good attitude, it is the only real treatment out there. You must embrace the PT, and be willing to wait. You have to do the home exercises very dilligently, and in time it pays off.
     
  5. Bean

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    Thanks Peyomp, I'll pass that along.

    The main hurdle right now is alleviating the pain enough so that she *can* do PT.
     
  6. BradUF

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    My GF has the same problem.
     
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    You may also want to get a second opinion from another doctor. He or she may have alternate or additional suggestions.
     
  8. Bean

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    Thanks, I'll check into having a second opinion.

    At the moment, there isn't much outside of what we've been doing, I was just hoping for some information on anything we are missing.
     
  9. Toasty

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    Yup, have her cooperate as best she can and then be there for her as support.

    I'm a bit of a believer that some things like this can perhaps be conquered by mind and willpower as well. I've seen some physical miracles happen to people I know just because they let nothing beat them.....even their own bodies. Easier said then done when I'm not the one feeling all that pain, but plant the seed in her to help her grow that strength.
     
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    Have a look at this.

    http://www.dynomed.com/encyclopedia/encyclopedia/spine/Lumbar_Degenerative_Disk_Disease.html

    It is important that you tell your gf, to inform herself as BEST as possible about this disease, and start the best treatment as early as possible.

    Get her the BEST possible vitamins, calciums or other disk building substances that are out there on the market, so that the degeneration will slow down or even be possibly halted. Female's are often known to have bone problems due to lack of sufficient calcium,iron vitamin building blocks. the overall condition of the lumbar spine is very important , she will have to have a stict life style in which she continuesly monitors her back problems. She must not be allowed to lift anymore heavy loads, and she must visit the appropriate specialists that can help her with her disease.

    Initial treatment may require a short portion of bed rest, but a return to activity should be encouraged as soon as possible. The temptation may be to limit physical activity with relation to the back. On the contrary, physical activity should actually be increased, as overall physical fitness will improve the condition of the back. An exercise program should be implemented in order to build up the muscle strength in the back and abdominal muscles. Weight should also be adequately managed, as increased weight on the back causes stress on the vertebrae and only exacerbates the condition.
     
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    The needles in accupuncture don't go very deep and are not very painful. Infact it just stings like a mosquito bite initially and then you just relax.... I would atleast try it once.
     
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    If she can't handle PT, then its time for some opiates. Just be careful, eh? Realize they are temporary fix, if at all possible...
     
  13. Bean

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    Thanks for the info!

    I don't think opiates are a good way to go...especially since I'm a recovering addict, and having opiates in the home would be waaaay to tempting for me.
     
  14. Peyomp

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    Well, if she can't do her PT because of pain... then she needs pain medication. Period. Deal with your addiction for her good. The PT is essential. She's got to do it, or she is doomed.
     
  15. Bean

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    Understood.

    She told me this morning, before she left for PT, that she thinks it is helping her a little bit. Maybe she'll be able to stick it out after all.
     
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    Pilates Pilates Pilates.

    http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/detail/-/1931412898/104-2222230-6197505?v=glance

    Strengthening the inter-vertebral muscles will help to offset the degeneration of the disks. Thick muscle with tone can absorb shock as effectively as a disk. Its the only thing that really helps degenerative disk disorder besides anti-inflamatory drugs, and pain killers for symptoms.

    Its not enough to just, "Go to PT." Me, I went twice. She showed me the exercises, recommended I read up on Pilates and do the exercises on my own at least 3-4 times a week... within three weeks of doing pilates exercises and stretches, years of backpain from when I crush fractured L1 and L2 vertebrae went away. Before that the back pain was sharp and intense, and I even had an electrode shocker I hooked up to it to get the muscles to relax. It was so bad when I lived in Moscow that I ate pain pills (Tylenol with codiene was OTC) like candy, if ever I wanted to do anything that involved prolonged standing. Your partner's condition is different, but the fact of the matter is that PT (most PT borrows from Pilates now adays) is the only clinically proven treatment for back pain. None of the other shit works. Just masks symptoms. The PT gets to the root of the problem.

    She must embrace it. Its the only way to help her pain. She needs to do exercises daily, at home.
     
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    go to a fucking good chiropractor .

    NOW
     
  19. Peyomp

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    Fuck that voodoo horse shit. Chiropractic is useless. Don't throw away your money. Pilates Pilates Pilates. Actually proven to work. As opposed to Chiropractic... actually proven NOT to work.
     
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    I take the median approach to chiropractors: they are good for aligning your back every so often, but too often and it loses the benefit. You need a good core workout to strengthen the muscles; that's ultimately what keeps your back in place and prevents injury. Does she do office work? If so, get her doing some exercises that target her spinal erectors. Those are what should be keeping her upright.
     
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    Spinal erectors, but also the opposing muscles, the abs... but more specifically, the lower, internal abs. This is all in that book, that I again highly recommend. We don't want her doing hyperextensions in the gym. More like supermans in the floor. Her PT will be telling her similar stuff. As long as she runs with it...
     

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