Discussion in 'OT Bar' started by MyLittleAirport, Mar 10, 2009.
is that you?
yeah its him.. hes azn
be careful of landing yourself into a heel hook or something.
I just use shrimping and half guard, but ill give your escape a go, see if it works for me? anything i should be doing in particular or just try and go from the video?
also watch the figure 4 lock on your foot if your putting it there.
No one's slapped on a heel hook as of yet but then again, not too many people I train with go for them except the higher belts.
The figure 4 lock is no problem, I still have my hands right there and I can defend it easily. I have problems when I've done it to them a couple times so it usually comes to a struggle between who is quicker.
I would just escape.
If anything, I can heel hook them but I never go for it.
when someone gets their leg across like that is a matter of time. you want to put their leg back where it was.. not help them pull it further up
when you buck bring your other knee up the middle. try and close the figure 4 (safest way to finish) and with (in this scenario it would be your left foot) push the back of their knee away from you.
boom, solid as fuck heel hook
Say goodbye to your meniscus..
[no hate, nice escape.]
Cool just checking, i am pretty terrible from that 'feet to feet' position and i always lose the race to the ankle lock.
Will give it a go.
I tried that before and slapped my foot on someone's face because of my shitty flexibility. I stopped doing it and just push the knee to a halfguard.
and is your partner training with his glasses on?
Haha, good stuff.
How about the "put my foot inside the belt and leg press you off of me" mount escape?
Pretty much what Chechen said.
I can still slide my feet up if you flatten it like that, it's happened to me before, it's not like I just started doing this, I've been doing it for the last 2 years finding different variations and situations.
When I do go for a leg/ankle lock (which is rare), I do bring that knee through but I just wanted to show that I could escape the mount with it. I never thought about figure 4'ing it from there though, I'll probably slap it on slowly and let go just to remind myself its there, thanks. A white belt injured another white belt last week by slapping on a heel hook Man the instructors were pissed off about that.
I've actually wondered about this, I feel like I'm going to be regretting this later in life, do you think I should stop bending my knees in such a way? I know I won't be able to do this in like maybe 10-15 years and I don't want to give myself a life long injury..
Good luck man, I'm not trying to be cocky here (and believe me, I'm not, I'm a shitty purple belt and I have no confidence when it comes tournys) but I've gotten it on almost everyone I rolled with at least once or twice, even black belts, but thats only because I catch them off guard, once I've done it once or twice to them, they do what Chechen said and keep slapping my feet behind, not stacking on top of it. I plan to use this for MMA and think it'll be a good mount escape when shit hits the fan.
Yeah, he is , we were just drilling, he took em off when we actually rolled.
I've tried it once and then one of the instructors said to be careful with that move since I could fuck up my foot really bad if there's a scramble and my foot gets twisted in a weird way
could he just grab your head (like a can opener from guard) to defend? wouldn't that put a shit load of pressure on your hips/knee? (it would for me, no way I'm that flexible )
good shit though, looks cool regardless lol
The slower belts shouldn't be doing them. They don't know their bodies and the control needed to not hurt one another.
I destroyed a kids leg at a NAGA (he didn't tap) and another kid at the gym (he rolled the wrong way) since then I'll lock it up but never pull it.
When you feed your leg in you can also escape your hip out the side and bring you knee up, it should slide right inbetween his legs and hit the heel hook imanari style out the side.
I'm always scared of rolling the wrong way (and I usually DO roll the wrong way) so all I've doing lately is having someone slap on a heel hook or figure 4 and I would just roll for the right way and would do that for like 10-15 minutes.
I don't know about your knees but after I started trying out a lot of Bravo shit and getting into a lot of leg locks I ended up with a bucket-handle tear of my meniscus on the left knee. The right knee feels like its about to go now too.
It started with some mild pain.. and then one day during the warm up.. I was doing bear crawls or something and I couldn't unbend my leg. I had to get surgery to straighten it again.
Just a warning. Since then I went back to a more classic style jiu-jitsu.
i thought i was your partner
did u try to send me a PM
it wont work properly. the guy is hipping out when he does this kinda technique.. you will find its hard to smash the guy. the best thing to do is to try and pummel or swim your arm on the inside of his leg so it goes back to its original position. if someone gets their leg that far across my hip i find myself diving and rolling fast because it can become dangerous quickly
Yeah lol, it was basically "Sammowned"