GUN My attempt at destroying some fruit and vegetables Edgerton style. v.lotsofpics

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  1. jeepilot

    jeepilot Banned

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    Here's the continuation of the thread I made earlier in the week.
    I used some food for splatter effect. I went from bad, to pretty good on some shots.

    There's lots of pics, but I'll try to explain most of them.

    Again, using the P228 Airsoft pistol, This one wasn't dialed in, but grape through .223 round.

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    Got this one to pop off the bullet stand
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    Double exposure from when the flash triggered again when the sound of the bullet hitting the table got to the mic. This became a recurring problem with most of my stands, so I switched it below.
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    Deflected by the thick slice of pickle. Timing is getting better.
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    Timing was slow, but you can see pieces of pickle everywhere.
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    Changed the setup to allow for a better contrasting backdrop for the spray to reflect off of. Timing got off for a few shots.
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    Here's a zoomed out shot of my setup for the previous shots. I was trying to see where the bullet was for the delay. It's not in frame, so time to re-adjust the delay and switch to only green pellets. Mixing white and green is not good for consistency.
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    One of the better shots of the series. I clipped the pickle slice just inside the edge. Timing was reset, and should be just before or after impact.
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    Just a little too early for the next two. They both impacted the pickle though. Good example of how the flash can stop the pellet in mid-air.
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    Best picture of the set, to me. Grape slices give better spray patterns than the pickles, but are harder to hit, being a smaller target. This one impacted just at the edge of the grape slice. Perfect spray on entry and exit.
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    Moved flash to on-camera, and zoomed flash and lens full tele. Adjusting the zoom on the flash made it over-expose as shown below with the same ISO as the previous setup.
    This pic shows a good entry spray, and the pellet is just beginning to exit the grape.
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    Just barely hit the grape, and slowly reducing ISO by one stop/picture.
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    Lower ISO, and almost identical impact as previous picture.
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    Mis-timed. Still impacted grape.
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    Grape and carrot contact.
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    Grape and very small amount of carrot contact. Hydrostatic forces impacting carrot resulting in random spray pattern.
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    Aiming in the dark is hard. Missed the grape, impacted carrot, and got some nice carrot pieces flying
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    More pickles with good entry and exit spray. Since pickles aren't quite as much liquid, their spray isn't as violent.
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    Getting pretty consistent in the firing setup, and locations, that I can make the bullet stop between two pickle slices. Not bad for hand holding and aiming. Good spray pattern on the pickle. goes for next two pics.
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    Since I'm getting pretty consistent with the timing, I switched to my 70-300mm Sigma Macro lens @200mm, and manual zoomed.
    Pellet is just beginning to exit first pickle, leaving second pickle slice untouched. Required an even lower ISO rating than before.
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    Just clipped the edge of the front pickle slice. Bumped up the f-stop to f/11 to give a little better DOF than the previous two.
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    Pellet just beginning to impact pickle slice. Didn't get any other shot where pellet was just beginning to impact.
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    Even though the system is pretty consistent, timing does get off at times, as shown below.
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    Super close up macro of grape slice with good entry spray, and pellet just beginning to exit.
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    I'll have to make up some Jello and shoot it as recommended before.
     
  2. Milky

    Milky I'm in your Millenium Falcon, rumbling your Wookie

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    Lol that looks like fun

    Awesome :bigthumb:
     
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    Pineapple Devil beat it!

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    need more lighting
     
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    lt1aggie what?

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    Good job!
     
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    ?

    I'm using a Nikon SB600 sound trigger fired at 1/64 power which is about 1/25000 sec.

    I didn't want to over-expose, as I did in a few of them. I get better contrast and color out of the Nikon D80 when I underexpose by about 1/3 stop or so.


    Looking for jello to make up to shoot tonight.
     
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    Nice.
     
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    Nice, would bouncing the flash do anything in photos like these?
     
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    If you bounced the flash you'd get a lot softer light. some of the beginning shots are with an omnibounce on the flash. I took it off, when I went to on-camera at the end. I also zoomed the flash.

    The problem with trying to bounce the flash off a ceiling or something, is that you have to use the lowest power setting on the flash to get the duration the shortest, so you have to bump up the iso, or lower the aperture to get the right exposure.
     
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    love high speed cameras
     
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    Do it with a real gun now :noes:
     
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    How much did that setup cost?
     
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    it's not really a high speed camera. it's actually at a really slow shutter speed, but it's in a dark room and when the flash fires, that becomes the effective shutter speed.


    Stupid, wait... what? shooting the .223? eh, it's probably not THE safest thing to do, but hey, I was wearing safety glasses.


    http://www.hiviz.com/kits/sk2-du.htm here's where I got it from, and total cost was about $38 with the kit linked, a pc sync chord and shipping. they have plans and instructions, you could probably build it, or buy some stuff yourself if you wanted to make it cheaper. Mine worked great the first time I tried, and the instructions are pretty straightforward.




    Still need to get some jello and try that with the airsoft gun. I would use a real gun, but the flash I have would not be able to stop the bullet, it would be a blur about 1.5 inches long at the flash speeds I can get. I'm looking into getting a quicker flash, but then I have to worry about where to shoot.
     
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    All you need is Aguila SSS, some phone books and a basement :o
     
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    I thought about using some Colibri Shorts, which I think are just the primer, out of my pistol, which would be even slower. Problem is that I live in town, and the neighbors might begin to wonder. No basement either. I may be able to use my parent's place.

    Any idea on how slow a colibri short would be out of a 6 7/8" pistol bbl?
     
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    Pretty slow I would imagine, they'd most definitely be subsonic.
     

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