MMA MT / MMA people...throwing elbows

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  1. rtzcom

    rtzcom bon wons! fight slepa for life sone!~

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    Muay Thai coach was showing me a new flying elbow he'd like to try out in an upcoming fight. Since downward elbows are still a no no in a lot of events, he figured if you hit someone with the inside of your elbow (using a butterfly press style movement) would be legal.

    We worked a combo from the jab, and it had a nice flow to it. It may not have as much damage as a regular slicing elbow, but it may catch a lot of people since its unexpected.

    Anyone do this before?
     
  2. pepsi

    pepsi Cut my life into pieces

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    i need a visual or an mspaint, but it sounds like he'd damage himself more then an opponent, lots of soft tissue around the elbow?
     
  3. Sylva

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    sounds like a good way to mess up his RC
     
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    sounds like you'd hit your funny bone area if you did that
     
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    only flying elbow i've learned is pretty much just a superman punch but an elbow instead
     
  6. teep

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    i think i know what you're talking about, but to me it doesn't make sense to do a flying version of it. if it's the elbow i'm thinking of, it has very little range to it so jumping into it would be kind of awkward and easy to avoid.
     
  7. checkii

    checkii ฝรั่งตาน้ำข้าว

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    i read this and didnt reply cause i didnt want to shit on it.

    but since i'm not the only one... ...yeah, this sounds really stupid.

    and doesnt sound remotely effective at hurting the opponent, no real way to get all your weight behind 1 small point.
     
  8. rtzcom

    rtzcom bon wons! fight slepa for life sone!~

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    We call that the "20 to life" because its practically guaranteed death to the other dude if you connect with it. I love throwing this as a counter from a check.

    The only reason why it's a "flying elbow" is because the only way to generate power is to throw your body at it. It's an awkward move and can't really do much even when you move your hips to it.

    I'm thinking its a nice way to throw your opponent off, like a heavy jab....and its another way to aggressively cut an angle on the other guy.
     
  9. Sylva

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    Also a good way to fuck up your shoulder. Go ahead and thrwo it with all yoru weight behind it, see how it goes for you.
     
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  11. whup

    whup I wish you had children and.. so that I could step

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    Right hook > fancy elbows :mamoru:
     
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    there's much more efficient ways to throw someone off their game. I had a guy push kicking the shit out of my knees/thighs on Monday, didnt hurt, but annoyed the shit out of me and kept me from moving in.
     
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    darkjedi Muay Thai expert

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    horizontal elbows are hard to land. you can only land that if the other guy's guard is down
     
  14. teep

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    there's this one real tight short ranged elbow in muay thai. it's good when you're close enough to slip it through the guys guard or when you're coming out of a clinch. you round it a little with your shoulder, but the power comes from popping it like a jab or a cross.

    [​IMG]

    the picture is a muay boran thing, but basically looks like an over dramatized version of the elbow i'm talking about.

    is this what you mean?
     
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    Do you mean a downward striking slice elbow? I'd need a picture, but that's what's in my mind. I don't see how you can make it into a flying one, it'd be awkward.

    All the power to him if it works though.

    The only really fancy elbow I haven't seen people try in MMA is the spinning back elbow. Urijah gave it a shot, but he had no setup and paid dearly for it. I think if it was in a proper exchange, going from a left hook to a right spinning back elbow (either lateral or downwards) might surprise someone.
     
  16. rtzcom

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    ^ no...that's different. That's a nice elbow to throw after a jab. I have a hard time finding my distance though when I throw that because it's a significant adjustment stepping forward right after a jab.

    like what darkjedi said, its more of a horizontal elbow...imagine bitchslapping someone in the face with your elbow/funny bone.
     
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    ah ok. In terms of the downwards one, it's a gooder going in and out of the thai clinch. It'd be harder setting up with just a jab, I'd want to set it up while in closer range, probably after a hook.

    I can see now what you mean. That'd be unexpected, that's for sure, but I'd be worried about my shoulder if it was thrown hard. Perhaps using it as a means to setup an overhand right?
     
  18. Sylva

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    This is a terrible idea and just asking for an injury.
     
  19. teep

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    why wouldn't you just throw a regular elbow then? much more power
     
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    i'd need a video of your awkward elbow, but from the description, i agree with shooto on this
     
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    lol wut
     
  22. Sylva

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    Imagine making this motion and hitting them in the face with the side of your elbow/funny bone area at the point in the gif where his arms come the closest.

    Yeah, good idea. :ugh:

    [​IMG]
     
  23. jag6984

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    Sorry, the Calgarian coming out in me.
     
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    i actually agree with silva for once lol, but yes from the way you're describing it, it sounds awful, and I would be one to know with the amount of shoulder injuries ive had :rofl:
     
  25. Redneck Shinobi

    Redneck Shinobi Well Jules, the funny thing about my back is that

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    That area is going to hurt you more then it'll hurt them/throw them off. Plus there won't be much power generated and you won't cut them. If he throws that twice against a skilled striker he's gonna be ko'ed.
     

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