Moving from Zaino to Klasse

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  1. IslanderOffRoad

    IslanderOffRoad Do you even lift kit? OT Supporter

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    So in the year I've used Zaino on my car I've been pretty happy with how it looks. My biggest area of complaint however is Zaino's staying power after heavy rains. It seems to be just about stripped after a storm, and I've gotta re-do it.

    Is Klasse AIO better through bad weather? Or will I have the same problem. I think I want to try Klasse now, and I've looked on Autopia, what do you guys reccomend I buy to start with?
     
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    I'd recommend using AIO + 4 Star UPP on light colors and AIO + Meguiars #16 on dark colors.
     
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    Car is Dark Shadow Gray. Meguiars #16... is that carnuba?
     
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    Yeah, a real old school carnauba. Meguiars has had it since 1951 but had to discontinue it since it didn't meet the new VOC regulations. You can still get it but once the current supply runs out, that is it, unless you want to buy it from a UK distributor. Autogeek had a special but apparently they are out since it isn't listed any more.

    #16 is a wet and glossy looking carnauba and very durable. It outlasts some sealants I have. One can will wax around 60 cars.

    Another option is either Meguiars #26 High Tech Yellow Wax http://www.autogeek.net/meg26hitpasw.html

    Or Poorboy's Natty's Paste Wax http://www.autogeek.net/pbnpw.html

    You want something that will blow you away even if you have to reapply it every 2 months? Try Pinnacle Souveran. http://www.autogeek.net/pinsouvwax.html
     
  5. MrBonus

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    Oddly enough, I found Zaino continues to bead much better versus the elements than Klasse although I prefer Klasse simply because of its easy use.
     
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    I think you might be in the minority on the ease of use camp. There is definately a learning curve to SG, I used too much my first time... you just can't apply SG thin enough. Easy to use, yes, once you get your technique down. Many just can't seem to get it down though. I usually only use SG for winter prep however.
     
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    MrBonus Et Tu, Brute?

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    It goes on similar to Zaino except that it must be removed much quicker. Perhaps my years of Zaino use has rendered me numb to difficult to use polishes. :o

    ...And I agree about the winter prep. I honestly don't see any need to use it in the early spring/summer months because I'm usually waxing my car every week or two.
     
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    ARGH!! can't find anymore #16 anywhere.... Also does anyone know if applying AIO and then SG and then #26 high tech wax would be too much or is it just as good to use AIO and #26?

    Also how is S100 compared to #26?
     
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    I'd just go AIO/26. SG looks really good but it can be finicky, plus you have to wait at least 24 hours before topping it. If you don't mind spreading your detail out, SG is worth adding into the equation. AIO/26 though will be a lot faster to apply. S100 also looks real good but it will be a bit more reflective but less deep than #26. Natty's Paste is also worth trying. Similar appearance to S100 but wetter.
     
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    So would #26 or Natty's be better for a Jet Black car?
     
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    Depends on what your definition of 'better' is. #26 will be a bit deeper, Natty's will look wetter.
     
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    Better = shine will last a few weeks longer. :hs:
     
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    It's a toss-up. Natty's is suprisingly durable for a beauty wax.
     
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    What is your opinion of #16 compared to S100? :noes:
     
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    The appearance is pretty similar but S100 has slightly sharper reflections and #16 has a wetter glow. #16 is more durable.
     
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    Do you know where I can still find #16? I want to try it out. :x:

    Is the application/removal similar? S100 is really easy to apply and remove. :o
     
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    You will just have to search. I do have 3 1/2 cans, I may be willing to part with a small amount (1 full tin should be enough for 50-60 cars) if you can't find any.

    I apply a thin layer of #16 to a couple panels at a time then remove. Piece of cake.
     

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