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    Mount Olive police shoot 'vicious' dog
    http://www.newsargus.com/news/archives/2008/09/21/mount_olive_police_shoot_vicious_dog/
    By Kenneth Fine
    Published in News on September 21, 2008 7:27 AM


    MOUNT OLIVE -- It was just after 7 p.m. Thursday on West Main Street, a typically quiet stretch in Mount Olive.

    Sharon Kulers heard her Dalmatian barking outside, so she made her way to the back yard.

    She saw a Mount Olive Police Department cruiser pull up to the house behind hers.

    Then she noticed the shotgun in one of the officer's hands, aimed at her neighbor's 45-pound Labrador retriever.

    "I said, 'Please don't shoot that dog. He won't hurt you,'" Mrs. Kulers said.

    The officer looked at her, then back at the dog.

    A shot rang out -- then, another.

    "I said, 'Why did you have to do that? You didn't have to do that,'" Mrs. Kulers said. "He said, 'It showed its teeth.' He said, 'We have a right to do this.'"

    Moments later, the same officer was dragging a plastic bag toward the road, the dog in it, witnesses said.

    "That dog wouldn't hurt a flea," Mrs. Kulers said. "I know it is my word against theirs, but that dog was not being aggressive."

    Colby Mangum arrived home at 7:45 and was greeted by a note on her front door.

    "It said, 'Call the Mount Olive Police Department about your vicious dog,'" the 24-year-old Mount Olive College graduate said.

    Immediately, she thought of her Rottweiler, Bella.

    "Because of her breed and her size, I could understand if she got loose and scared someone," Ms. Mangum said.

    But "never" would she have imagined that the note was in reference to her 2-year-old, "undersized" Labrador.

    His name was Durham.

    A few minutes after she found the note, her neighbor, Mrs. Kulers, came over.

    "She was crying," Ms. Mangum said. "She was devastated."

    Devastated by what she called a "hateful" and "unnecessary" action.

    The neighbor who called the police was "really upset," too, Ms. Mangum said.

    She was in her yard collecting sticks and pinecones when she mistook a playful lunge for one of aggression, she told her neighbor.

    "She said (Durham getting shot) wasn't her intention," Ms. Mangum said. "That wasn't what she wanted. Not even close."

    Shortly before an official from the police department showed up at Ms. Mangum's house on Main Street to discuss the incident, her neighbor showed her where Durham was.

    She had no idea that her "son" was in that plastic bag leaning up against the curb.

    "The officers decided he needed to be shot, so they did, twice, with a shotgun, and then put him in a trash bag and left him on the side of the road," Ms. Mangum said. "Some people view their pets as children, and I am one of those people."

    When the officer showed up at her home, he showed no sympathy, she said.

    "He was very cold, very rude," Ms. Mangum said. "He said, 'Well ma'am, that's procedure."

    Nearly the same thing the shooter told Mrs. Kulers hours earlier.

    Police Chief Ralph Schroeder said based on the report he has seen, his men were justified in using lethal force.

    Calls to his office to get the name of the officer who fired the shots were not returned Friday. The notice left on Ms. Magnum's door was signed by "S. Parks."

    They were called by a neighbor who said the dog was acting aggressive, the dog "showed its teeth" to officers, and even "lunged" at one of them, he said.

    But at the scene, the department official sent to discuss the incident told Ms. Mangum that the dog was too far away to spray with mace, requiring two shotgun shells instead.

    "From what I have seen in the reports, that is what it says. The dog was being aggressive," Schroeder said. "(Our officers) attempt to get the owner to control their animal. If we can't, you have to make the decision on what to do with it."

    Town Manager Charles Brown said he had no comment other than he had heard about the shooting.

    But he did say that that "any time an officer feels threatened, they have the right to respond to that."

    Wayne County Animal Control director Justin Scally said he is not aware of any calls made to his office from Mount Olive police in reference to the incident -- Thursday evening or since.

    "Typically, the 911 center will contact us," he said. "But to my knowledge, we didn't get any calls Thursday."

    But Scally did say that he is not aware of any incidents in which a dog was put down by someone on his staff due to aggressive behavior.

    Goldsboro police Chief Tim Bell "couldn't say" whether or not a similar scenario has played out in his jurisdiction.

    Mrs. Kulers' voice was trembling when she talked about the incident Friday morning.

    For her, as soon as she began pleading with officers, telling them that the dog was somebody's pet, was probably just scared, the situation should have been diffused.

    Now, she fears for her own dog's safety -- and her own.

    "My Dalmatian is an outside dog. He can get out," she said. "I don't want them shooting my Dalmatian if he gets out, just because he growls out of fear."

    Ms. Mangum is still grieving but admits Durham wasn't really hers. Well, not exactly.

    He was a member of her household, but his best friend was her boyfriend, former Mount Olive baseball center fielder Michael Kicia, a member of the 2008 World Series championship team.

    "I can't even explain how upset he is," Ms. Mangum said.

    So late Thursday evening, some of his teammates showed up at that house on Main Street.

    They knew Kicia is currently in Canada, so they showed up to help honor his dog.

    They went out to the college ballfield and picked a spot just beyond the center field wall - burying Durham not far from the place on the sidelines where he romped while his "daddy" played.

    Ms. Mangum knows that emotional moment won't bring Durham back, that it might be a while before Schroeder's investigation results in "some kind of justice."

    But she vows not to stop fighting until she is certain this never happens again in the town she has called home for nearly a decade.
     
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    what a fucking douche bag cop :ugh2:
     
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    And people wonder why everyone hates cops. Perfect example of one douchebag fucking it up for cops in general.
     
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    Is he getting a medal for his bravery yet?
     
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    Dogs are amazingly good at detecting hostility. I'll bet you the dog was baring his teeth cause he knew the cop was there to do some harm.
     
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    I maintain the position that shooting dogs is clownshoes.

    At the same time, the owner is responsible for keeping her dog under appropriate restraint.
     
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    I'm just curious about the mace comment..... it was too far to mace it, so they shot it?

    There's a lot of holes left in the story, but this doesn't make sense to me. If it was too far away to mace it (what, 10-15' out?), then why were you worried about it? It almost sounds to me like the dog was enclosed in at the time of something.

    And what shittastic neighbor calls the police because a dog "lunges" at them. You'd think that they would at least have the common decency to confront the owner about it, it's not like they were bit and bleeding from the jugular or anything.
     
  11. Werm

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    Clean shot... if you can't take care of your dogs and make sure they're locked up, on a chain, etc... I don't want them wondering the streets or loose period.
     
  12. Werm

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    I doubt it... and I bet the lunge at the neighbor wasn't playful either, just a different story because she may not agree with the "excessive" force the cops used.
     
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    If COD4 taught me anything, it was to let the dogs go and not attract any unnecessary attention. That or break their necks using my right thumbstick.
     
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    :rolleyes:

    Because the neighbor who has actually dealt with the dog and said he wouldn't hurt a flea is just lying.

    If you approach a dog head on on his own property of course he's gonna get aggressive. Common fucking sense.
     
  15. Werm

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    "She was in her yard collecting sticks and pinecones when she mistook a playful lunge for one of aggression, she told her neighbor."

    Yea man... she was in the dogs yard. The one who called the cops... then backtracked and said it was all "playful" after the dog was dealt with and she was talking to the neighbors, possibly even the one who's dog was shot, about what happened :rolleyes:
     
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    Lots of people who are not familiar with dogs will mistake playfullness with aggression. If a dog lunged at her aggressively she would have been bit. It says nothing about anyone being bitten.
     
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    I swear the weakest, most cowardly people on earth become police officers.
     
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    not really, but ok.
     
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    Doesn't really matter if it was playful or aggressive, or if she was bitten. My guess would be it was aggressive and that's why she called the cops. The cops show up, say the dog was flashing teeth, the dog goes down.

    The owners are at fault... for having such an ill trained dog and not being more mindful to allow a way for the dog to escape.
     
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    I guess the article isn't clear to me. It seemed like the dog was shot on its owner's property.
     
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    This is why there are dog catchers. Why would they send a patrol car?
     
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    someone reports a vicious dog....obviously this *could* be as dangerous as knife brandishing asshole who has drank one too many Pabst. So the cops get sent there while the dog catcher finishes his big gulp and wanders to the scene.

    Meanwhile, dog growls, cop decides the dog doesn't like him and may attack, shoots him a few times (seems people see multiple shots as "excessive" rather than ensuring the dog is put down quickly instead of bleeding out).
     

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