MotoRex BLACKBIRD - One of the World's Best example of an R34 Skyline GT-R...

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  1. Bernout

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    ...before Craig Lieberman got his rice-picking hands on it and turned it into the 2F2F monstrosity. :squint:

    Special thanks to VQuick for being the only one to find the underlying theme of my other thread and actually post it. :bowdown:

    http://forums.offtopic.com/showthread.php?p=17348612#post17348612 (scroll down a couple posts)

    Motorex Nissan R34 Skyline GT-R

    By Jared Holstein
    Photography: John Thawley, Josh Jacquot



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    In the three months spent at MotoRex being tweaked, prodded into compliance with U.S. regulations, each Skyline inevitably gets a nickname, says MotoRex's Sean Morris. It is little surprise, then, that the name "Blackbird" titles the sharply raked windshield of this R34 Skyline GT-R V-Spec.

    The SR71 "Blackbird", love child of the Cold War espionage program, remains the fastest (publicly acknowledged) plane in the world, capable of flying from New York to London in about two hours. Even 32 years after its introduction, the Blackbird remains the aerial epitome of brute force and exotic construction.

    Though some of us might prefer a lighter, simplified R32 Skyline for flogging duties, for those interested in the most essential of G-rides, we present you with Mr. MotoRex's personal transport, the R34 Blackbird. By simply owning a Skyline, you are ensuring yourself a large degree of exclusivity; should you find the performance insufficient, MotoRex offers a variety of services and modifications that enhance performance, aesthetics and driver experience. This car showcases a happy compromise between ultimate cruiser and racetrack bruiser.


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    MotoRex left well enough alone with the interior, adding only wonderfully bolstered and supportive Recaro seats. To satisfy the G-ride quotient, the Blackbird received a collection of Eclipse stereo components that combined produce rich, clean sound, full of punchy, tight bass and clear mids, even when playing MP3s. Those born of the video game generation will feel at home in the R34's cockpit. Apparently, some Nissan engineers are as car geeky as we are, because the Skyline features a large color LCD display in the middle of the dash, telling you just about anything you could want to know about the RB26DETT's status and performance, even allowing you to change critical values in real time.

    With a stance best described as the visual result of a threesome between Darth Vader, a Kirosawa character, and a dominatrix, the Blackbird demands visual consideration. Starting with the most Rubenesque of the Skylines, MotoRex bedecked the R34 with a body kit designed in conjunction with C-west (for whom MotoRex is the exclusive importer).


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    Unlike many body kits that crack and shatter at the thought of strength or aerodynamic testing, these same ground effects are used in the N1 Endurance Series in Japan. Though many of us joke about 95 percent of decklid spoilers on the market making roughly 1.2 lbs of downforce at 180 mph, the scary part about this car is that you could probably test this hypothesis, and then some. The C-west GT wing adorning the Black Bird is carbon fiber through and through, including the beefy uprights.

    Many times, you wonder whether the huge jump in dollars spent on a very trick double or triple adjustable coil-over system is worth it, because you often end up with a car perfectly suited for the track, and absolutely miserable on the street.

    Not so with the ueber-pricey, but hugely effective, Oehlins remote reservoir coil-over suspension. Although when following the car on the street, it was evident the car was stiffly sprung, this rigidity did not translate to an unbearable ride. The suspension still exhibited abundant travel when substantially lowered, removing all drama from the occasional brush with a berm.

    Just how effective is the suspension system? For about 10 minutes, the Blackbird held the SCC record for the slalom at 72 mph. This is in a car that weighs almost 3,800 lbs. On street tires. Only the Lancer EVO 6 with large, very sticky prototype Pirelli DOT-legal race tires bettered the R34's speed.

    As much fun as I was having listening to tunes and watching Morris play with the LCD, it was indulging in the common fantasy of flogging a Skyline that I came for. After engaging the very touchy Tilton twin-plate clutch, we were off through the esses, turbos whirring. My planned slow-speed familiarization laps became fast ones, as the car's drive-me-hard, I-make-it-easy attitude shone through. Shifting into third was a bit tricky entering the back straight for this right-hand-drive rookie, but relaxing a bit quickly solved this problem.

    Coming out of the very tight, slow Zorro turn was the perfect place to evaluate the Blackbird's powerband. Smartly sized ball-bearing turbos provide both tractable low-end grunt, and from the mid-range, a big kick-in-the-pants that never falls off until the 8000 rpm redline.


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    This car features all APEXi bolt-on turbo upgrades, and at 1.0 bar, were being lightly worked. Both the stock internals and the upgrades are capable of more flow and stress. The straight-six is fairly muted by the time it reaches the muffler, emitting a rather suave roar, unlike the auditory ferocity found on most cars of this power. After the fourth gear charge up the straight, slowing for the following right-hand sweeper involved no drama with the stock Brembos, and as is to be expected, pedal placement was perfect for heel-and-toeing. Drop into third gear, turn in smoothly, work the big Toyos toward the sweeper's apex, and mash it. A claimed 400 whp at only 1.0 bar (which sounds about right, given the hefty car's 12.3 in the quarter) was more than sufficient to drive the tail towards the outside berm of the first of the series of esses, the ATESSA E-TS Pro active all-wheel drive quickly and seemlessly converting residual lateral energy into forward motion with such force it felt like a drag launch.

    For me, never has driving that fast been that easy. Every performance component of the car works so well that the usually apparent indicators of velocity like high speed instability and faded brakes were totally non-existant. To make the necessary adjustment for this handling dynamic required that I drive it a bit like a FWD car, remembering to apply gas at the onset of oversteer. Most remarkably (and most fun), the gas pedal provides both the oversteer and the correction. The majority of electronic stability controls on the market, like those found on Mercedes, are designed to save drivers from "dangerous" oversteer or other hairy situations. In the Skyline's case, these electronic training wheels make you a faster driver (electronics controlling torque bias both front and rear and left to right).

    That heft and high performance are not mutually exclusive is not secret; just look at BMW's new M5. In the Skyline's case, that heft also provides a tremendous amount of fun gadgets, the most effective 4WD system in the world, and notable comfort and luxury. Those minutes shared with the Blackbird on the track will always be remembered as an example of what results when an already special car is built spectacularly.


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    1999 Motorex Nissan R34 Skyline
    Chassis
    Chassis Code : R34

    Engine
    Engine Code : RB26DETT
    Type : In-line six, aluminum block and heads, twin turbocharged and intercooled
    Internal Modifications : APEXi N1 fuel pump, 256 cams, cam gear
    External Modifications : APEXi 550cc injectors, Power F/C, Type C adjustable fuel pressure regulator, APEXi 2530 ball bearing turbos,GT intercooler, N1 front pipe kit,Super Suction kit

    Engine Management
    Modifications : APEXi EVC, F-Con V and harness
    Horsepower : 400 whp (claimed)

    Drivetrain
    Layout : Longitudinal front engine, all-wheel drive
    Drivetran modifications : HKS Twin Plate clutch

    Suspension
    Front : Oehlins remote reservoir coil-overs
    Rear : Oehlins remote reservoir coil-overs

    Brakes
    Front : Endless brake pads
    Rear : Endless brake pads

    External
    Wheels : Work Meisters, 18 x 10-inches :bowdown:
    Tires : 275/35ZR-18 Toyo Proxes T1-S
    Body : C-west/Motorex N1 body kit and carbon fiber spoiler

    Performance
    Acceleration
    0-30 mph : 1.5 sec.
    0-60 mph : 4.0 sec.
    30-50 mph : 1.7 sec.
    50-70 mph : 2.0 sec.
    Quarter Mile : 12.3 sec. @ 112 mph

    Handling
    Lateral grip
    (200ft skidpad) : 0.94g
    Laptime : 53.8
    Slalom Speed
    (700 ft slalom) : 72 mph

    Braking
    60-0 stopping distance : 111 ft.


    At higher boost, the Blackbird was tested to pull 0-60 in just 3.6 sec, the 1/4 mile in 11.4 sec. and a top speed of 190 mph at 520 hp.










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  2. Bernout

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    Man...if they could do an NA V8 in the G35 body at about Corvette pricing, that'd be sweet. And then they could have the V8 TT for the Porsche-smasher set :cool:
     
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    what about yellowbird? that JUN tuned skyline thats in the UK. I dont know ifs its a GT-R or not, i'm not "Up" on my skyline vernacular.
     
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    :mamoru:

    :eek3: at ensuing ownage of ricers
     
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    Nemesis_152 I'm a delicate desert flower from Arizona.

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    it would be nice if the much-touted engine monitor in the center of the dash was actually ergonomically correct so it can be read at a glance.
     
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    Nemesis_152 I'm a delicate desert flower from Arizona.

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    japanese sportscars in the 50,000$ + price range failed before, and a TTv8 skyline would do so even more.
     
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    Excellent point...I wonder why the dash is not canted toward the driver, as in the Supra. It's not like they needed simplicity of production for left-hand-drive models...:confused:
     
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    Yeah, I always thought a ~340hp 'G45 Coupe' would be a great competitor for the likes of the MB CLK V8(can't remember the size :o ) and the new BMW 6-series. I don't know if it could be priced to match the 'Vette, or at least the C5 model. Performance might not be up to C5 levels either.

    The turbo V8 would almost be too fast...but it would be so good. :yum: The VK45DE is probably capable of around 400hp NA, and Q45s can make 450hp on only 7psi(supercharger and intercooler only). Who knows what a seriously tuned VK could make on boost. The 3.5L IRL version(same block) makes 650hp on Methanol, though.

    It looks like the next GT-R will be getting a VQ, though. But hey, Maximas with the 3L VQ motors are making 500hp on stock internals, so a built one should be pretty potent.
     
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    :dunno: And everyone said an $80k Porsche SUV was retarded, yet they all sell.

    It's a new day...just by the sheer number of 350Zs and G35s on the road, people are clamoring for sporty cars. The high-end Japanese market hasn't been fully explored yet...it day will come.
     
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    Nemesis_152 I'm a delicate desert flower from Arizona.

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    i was implying that the horizontal display is incredibly more prone to error, but the position and orientation is also terrible.
     
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    That might be the 'Hyper Lemon' or something. I've seen that name used by JUN before. :dunno:
     
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    Nemesis_152 I'm a delicate desert flower from Arizona.

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    the difference is that porsche has a porshe name, and the related exclusivity. that is what many want.


    nissan, toyota, and mitsubishi's attempts at hihg-dollar sports cars were a failure because of the brand identification that is associated, and it cannot be overcome in the states. It would be moronic of the japanese manufacturers to try and sell even a 50,000$ skyline, let alone a ttv8 version at higher cost.
     
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    If they could do a 4.5L V8 TT @ ~450 hp for $70k, it could do extremely well in that market. Considering the Viper is a RWD roadster @ 500hp/$80k, and the AWD 911 Carrera is at 320hp/$80k, there might be a nice middle ground to ride in... :big grin:
     
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    the lcd monitor is angled toward the driver though, the rest of the center console isn't.
     
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    Foo Could I have been anyone other than me? OT Supporter

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    Top Gear did a piece on it... 1000 awhp... was ridiculous.


    and for sale. :o
     
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    me wantey
     
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    NSX is $70K+
     
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    Nemesis_152 I'm a delicate desert flower from Arizona.

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    and is in the supercar set, not sportcar image ;)
     
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    i wouldn't call an NSX a supercar by any means...
    handles great, but comparing power to other cars...it's far from supercar status...awesome sports car without a doubt...
     
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    Nissan doesn't have any trouble getting that kind of power from the VQ V6. They went racing in the JGTC, and had 485ps(478hp) without a problem. The limiting factor was the 500hp limit of the GT500 racing class.

    However, imho, having a V8 would just look better from an image standpoint. Many will think "Why spend all that money for just a V6?" Lots more tuning potential with the V8, too.

    Don't quote me on this, but with projected power being in the 400-450hp range, the GT-R is probably using the 996 Turbo as a target, and plans to undercut it in price by a considerable margin. CEO Carlos Ghosn went so far as to say "You won't feel like you're being ripped off." :bigthumb:

    The $100k 2nd gen NSX won't stand a chance. :mamoru:
     
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    Nemesis_152 I'm a delicate desert flower from Arizona.

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    it is aimed at the supercar set.
     

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