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  1. phrozenlikwid

    phrozenlikwid New Member

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    So I need to sell a couple things, as I need to buy some stuff.

    First, I have a spare 700 barreled action sitting around. For all you people wanting to build a 700 on the cheap, here ya go. It's a RH 700 heavy barrel model. Blued finish (which looks great actually).

    26" tube, 1:12 twist. Added an old style trigger, which was adjusted and slicked up. It has the J-lock. I have another I'm building off of, so this one is getting culled from the collection.

    Comes with the BDL bottom metal. All you need is a stock, and some glass/mounts.

    I paid $375 for the gun, and $65 for the BDL parts. If you trade me $400, I'll trade you the gun and BDL bits. Contact me here if you want it.

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    Next I have an AR lower. It's an Essential Arms forged lower (new production). It has RRA guts, KNS pins, Magpul Miad + TG (FDE), and a big-button mag release. Complete with the exception of a trigger and stock/buffer assembly. $175 takes it. No pics at the moment, but it's flawless.
     
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    sprite Active Member

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    Whats the chamber on the BA... .308 juding by twist?
     
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    phrozenlikwid New Member

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    My bad, I suppose that would be rather important. It's a 223Rem.
     
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    damn if it was a little shorter on the twist I would be all over it. Looking to build a 1:8/9 700.
     
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    Paul Revere OT Supporter

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    do they make a .223 remington 700p in 1:7 or 1:8 twist?
     
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    1:7 is fairly fast, and I'm nearly positive that no one makes a factory gun twisted up that fast.

    Remmy doesn't do 1:8, which is a brainfuck on their part. I've actually written them to tell them how bad that sucks, but never even got a standard reply.
     
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    Sell the barrel and get a aftermarket tube punched 223AI:dunno:??? You know you want to.... No point in fucking around.
     
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    There are a lot of ARs twisted at 1:7 to handle the heavier .223 bullets. I dont know about bolt actions though.
     
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    Hmm.... Actually, I was looking for a good camera. At the moment, I need some cash as I have a seller who's cutting some of his collection and was nice enough to give me first dibs. He has shit I want, but I need more monies.

    I'll see what I can work out, but I can't make any promises at the moment. is this a body, or do you have any lenses to sweeten the deal?
     
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    Alamo_Jake Sorry I'm not sorry.

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    What kind of scope mount is that?
     
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    Paul Revere OT Supporter

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    ar15 barrels come in 1:7 twist, why would it be any different?
     
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    eric5678 striving for mediocrity OT Supporter

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    you willing to ship to tx?

    can you get pics?
     
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    That was a Badger mount... It doesn't come with the action though.

    Like everything else gun related.... It depends. 1:12 doesn't work for me, as I only shoot long bullets (62tsx, 75AMax). Both of these are pretty much a reloading only proposition (you might be able to get factory ammo, but it would be cost prohibitive I'd imagine). I planned on having this re-barreled, as I was looking for a 223AI to shoot the above.

    Strictly depends on what you are wanting to get out of your rifle. 1:12 will give you more velocity on the lighter/shorter stuff, as it doesn't spin it as fast (also doesn't have as much of a tendency to nuke thin-jacket varmint bullets either). As a VERY general rule, you should be able to spin the 60-64 grain match bullets, as well as the 55 TSX (which is an excellent killing bullet) with a 1:12, and there's factory rolled stuff there. M855 won't work, as it's too long (though that stuff is largely expensive/dried up from my understanding). It's a trade off either way. When I said that I was referring primarily to myself I guess, as I generally shoot the heavies to take advantage of the superior flight characteristics further downrange. People have gotten by just fine with the slower twists for a long time (fast/heavy shit is relatively new as a paradigm), so take that FWIW.

    Well.... For starters it's an AR, which isn't a turnbolt. You are talking different barrel lengths generally (usually 16" carbines with 1:7) which are usually slower (longer barrel = more velocity, which will spin heavies better), different bullets (mag-length constraints come into play here), and a different role.

    You can find faster twists (I'm thinking of getting a 1:7 done up for the 90gr's), but they are custom tubes usually. Feel free to prove me wrong, but I'm not aware of anyone making a 1:7 factory tube in a boltgun.
     
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    Fo' Sheezy; That was the shipped price.

    That was a picture of the action. I suppose I can snap one now, but give me a bit (I have a final due before 9pm I'm working on). Anything in particular you are wanting to see?
     
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    Unless you live in/near Northern Kentucky and want to do a FTF.

    A stock isn't a firearm ;).
     
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    Savage offers 1/7 in a few of the 12 series rifles.

    For anyone intersted Superior Barrels has a pretty good video out there of what happens to over-spun light bullets. 1:12 would probably be great for a dedicated varmint rig to shoot the lighter V-Max & V-Shock type bullets.
     
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    there are 20" 1:7 ar barrels :confused: i just dont understand why it wouldnt come even as an option from remington
     
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    That would be the million dollar question. Across nearly all spectrums, factory barrel twist hasn't kept up with current day bullet selection. It's lagging by a decade or so.

    But then again, I don't understand why I can't buy CL tubes from FN in various bore sizes, why so many manufacturers neuter rifles with retarded throat/magbox geometry, and why they seem to make it a point to fuck up ergos like they do.

    Maybe I should just start making my own shit. Wonder if Thomor's CNC production is coming on-line?:rofl:

    And to the person who asked for pics - I lied. I'm sorry, I can't get any tonight. My GF has my camera. Those interested will have to take me for my word that the rifle is clean, or wait until tomorrow until I can steal it back. Sorry bout that.
     
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    do they make anything tighter than 1:12?
     
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    Fastest that I'm aware of is 1:9, which comes in the SPS Tactical, and that abortion they call the VTR.

    Sometimes cheaper/easier to just snag an action cheap and rebarrel it yourself. Then you can decide throat geometry, and usually have a better tube anyways. Not that Remington tubes are shit.... I've never had a problem with them (especially the stainless ones), but they foul easily, and they are harder to clean. A custom stainless tube is always a better deal.
     
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    well, i'd like to get a precision rifle someday and for the distance of 90% of the shooting i would be doing .223 would be fine. i'd just like a twist rate that could accommodate 75gr ammo
     

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