GUN Montana Tells Feds To Leave Montana's Guns Alone

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  1. thegooch

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    http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-bloggers/2248518/posts

    Posted on Monday, May 11, 2009 11:04:29 AM by Sasparilla
    The tentacles have been cut off the Federal gun regulation octopus in the Big Sky State. The gun law is a gloves off slap in the face of the Federal Government and gun control groups. The Bradys are apoplectic once again. Montana exercised its 10th Amendment state sovereignty as the Governor signed a law that exempts guns, accessories such as magazines, silencers, and ammunition made in the state of Montana from all Federal firearms regulation. The guns and ammunition can't leave the state of Montana, and all guns made there must have "Made In Montana" stamped on them. There are no background checks, no serial numbers, and no paperwork.
    The state believes that since the Montana made guns don't cross state lines, then they are immune to all Federal Interstate commerce law's regulation. The state believes that just as the second amendment's "well regulated" militia, doesn't refer to the National Guard, which was created a hundred or so years after the second Amendment was written, regulation of interstate commerce doesn't apply because nothing travels interstate between the states. Montanans believe that when the State was admitted to the Union that the Second Amendment was a contract between the State, The people, and the United States and that it guaranteed the right to keep and bear arms.
    The Montana firearms industry isn't big. There are just a few specialty gun makers there, and a few that make western re-creations. But, of course the implications are huge. Alaska and Texas are considering similar legislation. Colonel Travis would be proud of Texas. The state will go and further will arrest any Federal agents in Montana who try to enforce Federal gun law over Montana made guns and ammo.
    Losing any power is not in politician's blood, especially in the Obama administration. This law...
     
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    Holy shit. In for Made in Montana F/A goodness.
     
  3. Rip The Jacker

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    Montana will lose :wtc:
     
  4. Joe_Cool

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    Holy shit, that's fucking badass! Montana > New Mexico now. :bowdown:
     
  5. Joe_Cool

    Joe_Cool Never trust a woman or a government. Moderator

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    On what grounds? Not only does the constitution forbid any government from regulating firearm ownership, but all throughout Title 18 Section 922, it's all full of "that move in interstate or foreign commerce". As long as it's all within the state, the fed has no authority.
     
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    FUCKING HELL, brb moving to Montana!
     
  7. Rip The Jacker

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    I thought they had precedent with pretty much everything coming back to interstate commerce?
     
  8. Joe_Cool

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    How does it come back to interstate commerce if it doesn't move interstate?
     
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    The feds will argue that it affects firearms coming into the state.
     
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    It will cut into their sales :dunno:

    Look man, I agree with this, I agree with putting the Feds in their place. I'm simply stating what will happen, the Supreme Court has sided with the Feds in other cases like this. I think its absolutely ridiculous.
     
  11. Joe_Cool

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    Article I, Section 8:
    Congress shall have the power ... To regulate Commerce ... among the several States.

    It does NOT say "anything that can be construed to affect commerce among the several states". Only the actually commerce.

    DOES NOT CROSS STATE LINES = congress has no authority.
     
  12. Joe_Cool

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    And Montana will (hopefully) defy the bullshit supreme court, just like they're defying bullshit federal law.
     
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    Yeah I hope they fight it, I think its a great step in the right direction. I'm not gonna get my hopes up though. Nobody follows the Constitution anymore.
     
  14. Joe_Cool

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    By the way, the way the commerce clause is used today is a complete abuse and usurpation of power. It was not intended to expand government power:

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    (A Familiar Exposition of the Constitution, by Supreme Court Justice Joseph Story)
     
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    I've always like the scenary in Montana. How's land pricing out there?
     
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    They'd better fucking start before enough people decide that it's time "to throw off such Government, and to provide new Guards for their future security".
     
  17. Joe_Cool

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    In for MT to become the most populated and most heavily armed state in the union. :bowdown:
     
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    You think too highly of people.
     
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    QFT. When the fed's wallet closes any state falls in line and forgets that it was trying to be independent.
     
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    brb moving :coold:
     
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    Do does this mean I can go to Montana and buy anything I want but I just can't take it out the the state :mamoru:
     
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    convoy?
     
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    The state will go and further will arrest any Federal agents in Montana who try to enforce Federal gun law over Montana made guns and ammo.


    :bowdown:
     
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    :bowdown:
    now that would be some drama. :rofl:
     
  25. Joe_Cool

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    It's too bad California didn't have the balls to do this with weed. Legalizing it means dick if it's still a federal crime and you're not willing to stand up to the feds.
     

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