GUN MMA fighter shot to death

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  1. Joe_Cool

    Joe_Cool Never trust a woman or a government. Moderator

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    Article posted in The Cage: http://forums.offtopic.com/showthread.php?t=4051353

    Guy goes to a christmas party at his ex girlfriend's family's house, starts shit, is told to leave, refuses, starts smashing everything. Homeowner kills him, and ... is arrested for 2nd degree murder. WTF?!
     
  2. Cannondale

    Cannondale OT Supporter

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    It disturbs me how blase some posters are in that thread about a professional fighter ripping up someone's house. I wouldn't risk anything in the same scenario, why wouldn't you think that guy would beat you to death?
     
  3. Joe_Cool

    Joe_Cool Never trust a woman or a government. Moderator

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    I think it's an intersting story for all the badass "I'd just kick his ass" liberals. Well, I doubt you can fight better than a UFC figher, and he didn't last long against a bullet.
     
  4. johan

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    Lots of bravado there from young sounding folks who dont have much life experience.
    Takes all kinds I guess.
     
  5. Joe_Cool

    Joe_Cool Never trust a woman or a government. Moderator

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    Well, it's a forum about fighting, filled with a bunch of guys who train to fight. They all might be a little single-minded and think the guy should have fought him, but I take a much more practical view. I don't believe in ever giving a criminal a fair fight. Moreso when the guy is a professional fighter.
     
  6. mtnbike4522

    mtnbike4522 CelicaTech.com

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    typical idaho cops:rolleyes:

    but id like to hear more details of the story.

    throwing dishes should not get you shot.. but if he started coming after somebody with them.. id think its fair game
     
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    meh, i tried.
     
  8. Joe_Cool

    Joe_Cool Never trust a woman or a government. Moderator

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    Refusing to leave my home when I tell you you're not welcome gets you shot. That much more if you get violent.
     
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    If he's willing to destroy someones property when he's the asshole, and is obviously roid-raging, what makes you think he'll stop at inanimate objects?
     
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    Admitted I shouldn't be on OT right now.

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    So now it's ok to go to my friend's houses and just start destroying shit? I'm going to trash your house and throw shit at you while you sit there and call the cops. Fuck whatever financial situation your family is in, I have no money so have fun suing me.
     
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    I know I know....what's laughable is the idea that I should bother to fight a pro-trained MMA fighter.

    Even if I were an equivalently trained world-competitive MMA fighter, what's the point here?

    Go 10 rounds in my living room smashing up all my shit? For what purpose... showing off your brass balls and what a tough guy you are :rofl::rofl:

    Only a stupid teenager would entertain some misguided notion of going toe-to-toe with a loutish criminal in some kind of 'contest'. :rofl:


    Threats need to be dealt with expediently using the most efficient, and justified means possible. Where a firearm is indicated...USE IT
     
  12. MAD PUNK inDC

    MAD PUNK inDC Sic Semper Tyrannis

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    fuck him, he had it coming.
     
  13. Joe_Cool

    Joe_Cool Never trust a woman or a government. Moderator

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    I agree completely.
     
  14. Joe_Cool

    Joe_Cool Never trust a woman or a government. Moderator

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    This too.
     
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    I find your ideas intriguing....do you have a newsletter? maybe some brochures?
     
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    Jinkle Habs/Vikings > *

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    Even 'roids couldn't save his shitty career
     
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    I think he would fall into the class of "theats with known fighting skill".


    looks like he should have left when he was told.
     
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    I'm 6'6"/300lbs with some MMA training, and I'll still always pull my gun before anything else if someone poses a legitimate criminal threat to me.
     
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    I'll be here all week... try the veal. Dont forget to tip the drinks girl
     
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    this has not been a good month for mma fighters.
     
  21. BROKE

    BROKE Mr. Selfdestruct

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    another reason all states should enact castle doctrine
     
  22. idleprocess

    idleprocess Bring a dollar with you baby in the cold cold grou

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    I think that some of the dips in that thread have seen Fight Club too many times, or think it was a documentary.

    I got so far as the first page and gave up when that one moron suggested that lethal self-defense wouldn't be justified until the guy "laid a hand on you" - because the average person wouldn't be dead or badly injured at that point if an (MMA champ) assailant was determined to kill them?

    Do people really think that way? That bare-knuckles fights aren't potentially life-threatening and that you're expected to get the shit beaten out of you because someone far larger and trained in the art has an ego problem and wants to take it out on you? No. Only dumbasses fight fair in situations like that and get badly fucked up by roid ragers, who end up in prison for assault anyway.
     
  23. AustinL911

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    Where's that MagPul motivational picture?:

    "If you show up expecting a fair fight, you're already underprepared."


    ...or something like that.



    And I love that one guys response on the first page, "Guns and knives are for cowards." :ugh:
     
  24. Joe_Cool

    Joe_Cool Never trust a woman or a government. Moderator

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    The idea that you should just accept it and do nothing when somebody refuses to leave your home and gets violent just bottles my mind. How the fuck do people think like that?

    Actually I guess it's the brainwashing. People are trained to think that the shooter is always automatically the bad guy, and "real men" settle things by fighting.

    Sorry to disappoint you. I'm a pretty good fighter, but why should I bother?
     
  25. konrad109

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    lol at callin me a "moron." Self-defense is just that. So no, you can't kill someone you invite into your home for breaking a couple dishes, which is probably why they arrested and charged the shooter in the first place. How is it possible that you morons can read "anti-gun" into my threads when I am 100% pro gun, pro self defense, and pro property rights.

    Joe_Cool reads what he wants, and has even quoted threads of me saying I don't like Obama because of his stance on guns and he accused me of being a libtard anti-gun. Its amazing how you guys read what you wanna read and stuff words in people's mouths to show how badass pro gun you are. You give sane gun owners a bad name.
     

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