MIL military privitization.....yea or nea?

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  1. SweetDaddyO

    SweetDaddyO we need a montage!!

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    inspired by the thread about security companies in iraq...

    i'm sure most of you have seen the increase in privitization around base. when i went through flight school, all of our maintenance was provided by private companies, and much of our academic instruction was provided by them as well. when i flew T-1s and T-39s (training as a navigator), the pilots were provided by civilian companies - they flew USAF and USN jets, and all were ex-mil, but they were all civilians.

    at Dyess AFB, where i'm now stationed, the gate security is provided by a company called USProtect, and my academic and simulator instruction for the B-1 training, is provided by Rockwell Collins, Inc. look around base and you see almost more civilian workers than you do uniformed personnel.

    personally i don't think there's a problem with it. the military saves money by contracting out these services, and that's money they can use for our equipment and other important things. however, i can see a day where, at least in the air force, the only uniformed jobs will be combat aviation, combat comm, security forces (when deployed), special ops, and maybe some combat intel folks.

    i was just wondering what everyone else thinks of the "privitization" of the US military.
     
  2. smokie700

    smokie700 right near da beach, Boiiiii

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    i don't think it would be good. The military has to know that it works for the country and no one else.
     
  3. aftershock-

    aftershock- rawr -.-

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    im an mp..by the end of jan every one of our shifts is gonna have a civilian dispatcher working with us, and eventually have civilians working the gates. i really dont see a problem with it
     
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    Already on Fort Bragg, they have Civilians work all the gates/enterences onto Post. I think there is a mix at Pope AFB. I went onto Mchord AFB here in Washington and I saw a mix as well.
     
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    smokie700 right near da beach, Boiiiii

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    I read the topic wrong. I was thinking of a terminator type situation in where the military is owned and operated by the corparation.
     
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    like everyone said, some non-essential parts like cafeteria services, physical training and security at base gates, yeah...

    Think about the other end of the spectrum though.. what if troops were unionized :eek4: ... I think the Dutch are.
     
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    Ft Dix has DOD police, McGuire still uses SP's at the gates.
     
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    I would think the salary these folks get paid would be more than a member of the military.
     
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    aftershock- rawr -.-

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    i believe they are trying to make most of us field mp's, and only a handfull garrison
     
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    US bases in Germany use german security companies to guard the gates. I always thought it was kinda funny.
     
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    Do the German guards ask you for your papers?
     
  12. widds2v

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    I dont see how we would be saving money. Contractors of a certain field get paid way more than the military equiv. Example the guys from SPAWAR that came out to do our LAN upgrade (which we could of done btw, and im sure years ago military did it) were pulling in about 3 grand a week while there (working ~80 hours/week which is normal for our working ours). I get paid like $400 a week. Government could employ multiple me's for one of them.
     
  13. SweetDaddyO

    SweetDaddyO we need a montage!!

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    yeah, but don't forget the gov't has to pay for your training, medical/dental, death benefits, housing, and a host of other costs that they don't pay the contractors.
     
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    Unfortunately, about 50% of the civilians are worthless......
     
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    fintheman I will ebay O/T!

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    Wouldn't that number hold true in the military too?

    or more or less 35% ;)
     
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    Like I've said, wave of the future
     
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    Executive Outcomes was actually hugely effective in Sierra Leone, then western states pressured the new Govt. into not renewing the contract and it went back to civil war.
     

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