GUN Miami looking to enact an AWB

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  1. TL1000RSquid

    TL1000RSquid ΜΟΛΩΝ ΛΑΒΕ

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    Miami Commissioner, Police Chief Rally To Ban AK-47s


    Posted: Friday, February 15, 2008
    Updated: February 15th, 2008 01:32 PM PDT



    Story by nbc6.net



    MIAMI --

    AK-47 assault rifles can shoot through a police vest or even through a car, and police said they're flooding Miami streets.

    Miami's police chief and a city commissioner talked on Thursday about banning assault rifles in the city. They said what they really want is for the federal government to take action.

    A Miami city commissioner said in 2004 that when Washington gets a cold, a sneeze is felt in Miami. That's how he described the president's decision not to renew the ban on assault rifles.

    Since then, there has been a 12 percent increase in shooting deaths and two police officers have been killed.

    "Our police are outgunned and out manned," said Commissioner Marc Sarnoff.

    Surrounded by police officers and the family of slain Miami Detective James Walker, Sarnoff took aim at AK-47s. An officer in the room held one that had been confiscated from a gang member.

    "These guns are designed to kill with lethal force," Sarnoff said. "Their place is on the battlefield, not in the city of Miami, not on our streets."

    Sarnoff said he wants citizens to send a letter, which is available on his Website, to their representatives in congress urging lawmakers to bring back the ban on assault weapons.

    Walker's family joined the effort.

    "Please, let's reinstate the ban on assault rifles," said Walker's widow. "Thank you."

    "If something isn't done, what is a young police officer going to be facing 10 years from now?" said Chief John Timoney. "It will be Rambo becomes reality."

    Timoney said the 2004 decision to let the ban expire resulted in a flood of AK-47s on South Florida streets. A pie graph showed a jump from 4 percent of shooting deaths in 2004 to 16 percent committed with assault rifles last year.

    "Our police don't stand a fighting chance against these military-style assault weapons," Sarnoff said.

    Sarnoff and Timoney said the national ban was reasonable regulation and not an assault on the right to bear arms.
     
  2. hsmith

    hsmith OT Supporter

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    I'd like to know what # involved "assault rifles"
     
  3. hsmith

    hsmith OT Supporter

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    And I am glad they are only worried about cops :cjerk:

    i love how militarized the police have become, yet citizens are left defenseless
     
  4. Paul Revere

    Paul Revere OT Supporter

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    :rofl: is he fucking joking? :ugh: give the cops AR15's you fuck
     
  5. hsmith

    hsmith OT Supporter

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    You know, FA firearms are just mass produced now, they just flow through the streets like water






    :bowrofl:
     
  6. Paul Revere

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    [​IMG] the stupid flows like water [​IMG]
     
  7. saxman

    saxman Burninating the peasants

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    I'm sure that all of the AK's used in these crimes were legally acquired from the local gun store
     
  8. Fire Sauce

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    Florida is a fucking shithole.
     
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    Soybomb New Member

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    This takes the usual ignorance of the anti opinion to a new level, the president had nothing to do with it.
     
  10. smartypants

    smartypants New Member

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    This will no doubt make Miami safer.
     
  11. hsmith

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    :nono: gun show loophole
     
  12. saxman

    saxman Burninating the peasants

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    certainly not the drug runner loophole
     
  13. twistid

    twistid Banged By Super Models Moderator

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    i feel safer already, and i'm 1/2 way across the country.
     
  14. saxman

    saxman Burninating the peasants

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    you have to watch out for those long distance sneezes via miami that bring deadly AK's
     
  15. xpinchx

    xpinchx hes got a nice cock, on the thin side but its stil

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    "12% increase in shooting deaths." Probably only a handful of them actually involved an "assault weapon". What good is it really going to do to ban AK-47s? Probably most of the people doing these shootings with "assault weapons" acquire them illegally anyway. That's just speculation, but I suspect that's what's going on.
     
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    [DWI] Master of Nothing

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    To them I would like to say

    790.33 Field of regulation of firearms and ammunition preempted.--

    (1) PREEMPTION.--Except as expressly provided by general law, the Legislature hereby declares that it is occupying the whole field of regulation of firearms and ammunition, including the purchase, sale, transfer, taxation, manufacture, ownership, possession, and transportation thereof, to the exclusion of all existing and future county, city, town, or municipal ordinances or regulations relating thereto. Any such existing ordinances are hereby declared null and void. This subsection shall not affect zoning ordinances which encompass firearms businesses along with other businesses. Zoning ordinances which are designed for the purpose of restricting or prohibiting the sale, purchase, transfer, or manufacture of firearms or ammunition as a method of regulating firearms or ammunition are in conflict with this subsection and are prohibited.

    (2) LIMITED EXCEPTION; COUNTY WAITING-PERIOD ORDINANCES.--

    (a) Any county may have the option to adopt a waiting-period ordinance requiring a waiting period of up to, but not to exceed, 3 working days between the purchase and delivery of a handgun. For purposes of this subsection, "purchase" means payment of deposit, payment in full, or notification of intent to purchase. Adoption of a waiting-period ordinance, by any county, shall require a majority vote of the county commission on votes on waiting-period ordinances. This exception is limited solely to individual counties and is limited to the provisions and restrictions contained in this subsection.

    (b) Ordinances authorized by this subsection shall apply to all sales of handguns to individuals by a retail establishment except those sales to individuals exempted in this subsection. For purposes of this subsection, "retail establishment" means a gun shop, sporting goods store, pawn shop, hardware store, department store, discount store, bait or tackle shop, or any other store or shop that offers handguns for walk-in retail sale but does not include gun collectors shows or exhibits, or gun shows.

    (c) Ordinances authorized by this subsection shall not require any reporting or notification to any source outside the retail establishment, but records of handgun sales must be available for inspection, during normal business hours, by any law enforcement agency as defined in s. 934.02.

    (d) The following shall be exempt from any waiting period:

    1. Individuals who are licensed to carry concealed firearms under the provisions of s. 790.06 or who are licensed to carry concealed firearms under any other provision of state law and who show a valid license;

    2. Individuals who already lawfully own another firearm and who show a sales receipt for another firearm; who are known to own another firearm through a prior purchase from the retail establishment; or who have another firearm for trade-in;

    3. A law enforcement or correctional officer as defined in s. 943.10;

    4. A law enforcement agency as defined in s. 934.02;

    5. Sales or transactions between dealers or between distributors or between dealers and distributors who have current federal firearms licenses; or

    6. Any individual who has been threatened or whose family has been threatened with death or bodily injury, provided the individual may lawfully possess a firearm and provided such threat has been duly reported to local law enforcement.

    (3) POLICY AND INTENT.--

    (a) It is the intent of this section to provide uniform firearms laws in the state; to declare all ordinances and regulations null and void which have been enacted by any jurisdictions other than state and federal, which regulate firearms, ammunition, or components thereof; to prohibit the enactment of any future ordinances or regulations relating to firearms, ammunition, or components thereof unless specifically authorized by this section or general law; and to require local jurisdictions to enforce state firearms laws.

    (b) As created by chapter 87-23, Laws of Florida, this section shall be known and may be cited as the "Joe Carlucci Uniform Firearms Act."


    Cliffs: Miami can't do anything on their own and hopefully the rest of the state realizes Miami has bigger problems than the type of guns they shoot each other with.
     
  17. Aequitas

    Aequitas If it keeps on raining, levee's going to break.

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    I say build a huge wall between south Florida and the rest of the state.
     
  18. kellyclan

    kellyclan She only loves you when she's drunk.

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    Many police chiefs are just one handshake away from being a bona fide professional liar..I mean politician, anyway.
     
  19. Soybomb

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    I would call it "new cuba."

    Or maybe new haiti.

    But I've never actually been to FL so don't really know what I'm talking about either.
     
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    [DWI] Master of Nothing

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    Down here we hope for global warming, it would turn miami into an island and possibly shut down the ocean currents and actually make it cooler.
     
  21. KNYTE

    KNYTE I'm Not Kidding.

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    I remember a similar article from about 6 months ago about a female cop in Miami who was bitching about the same things.
     
  22. Gaunt

    Gaunt blood for the blood god OT Supporter

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    no hold on their. south florida is a shit hole, us in the north are nice. its all the fucking northern people that come down.


    oh and why dont the police use body vests that the military uses?
     
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    What is with all the Miami hate :ugh2:
     
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    [DWI] Master of Nothing

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    Just the streets with spanish names.
     
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    Gaunt blood for the blood god OT Supporter

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