backstory: was out with some friends last night and despite being with a mixed group of people (men, women, singles, and couples and a few married folk) and this having been my first night out in a bar in a LOOOOOONG time, I was observing the approach tactics of men in the establishment (there weren't any women doing the approaching to men so hence the thread being geared towards men). So what I observed: 1. a handful of men stare....I mean constantly. To the point of it being obvious to the GROUP. They do NOT approach. (thankfully) 2. Then there's the random strangler who makes the smarmy "come here often?" or "are you here with anyone?" kind of approach even when its obvious you're wtih the group and/or not open to approach. 3. And then lastly, the ballsy approacher(s) who don't give a shit if you're there with anyone or if you've never even glanced their way, that blatantly approach and comment awkwardly about the women in the group having a good time (enjoying the live music) and then try to weasel their way into the group after repeated failed attempts at openings. My objective: to meet up with friends and enjoy the music and go home safe and sound and ALONE. So this is what my body language said. All the women in the group were dressed conservatively and bundled for the cold as well. It seems that there were plenty of people that, if given the "ok" via eye contact and body language would have gone thru the appropriate channels to approach. But the ones that got the proverbial red light STILL approached and got poor results. So my question: Do you guys find you're successful with this kind of cold approach? Because personally I found the approach annoying and unwanted as did the other females in the group. This was NOT a club, nor was it a dive bar and nor was it crowded (It WAS a Tuesday night after all). It was a cocktail lounge geared for live music in a smallish intimate setting.