Meathead Question of the Week #1

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Is it easier, equal, or harder to deadlift in water than land?

  1. easier

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  2. equal

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  3. harder

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  1. evolude

    evolude OT Supporter

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    If you were to deadlift 225 lbs. (102 kg for fags) in water, is it easier, equal or harder than on land?
     
  2. planeh

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    I'd say harder due to the resistance of water being greater than air. :dunno: just a logical guess
     
  3. CPop

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    Depends how explosive you are.
     
  4. GTLifter

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    the bouyancy would be overcome by the resistance of the water if you're super fast. at what velocity it would cancel each other out I don't know.
     
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    the weights are probably "lighter" (read: more buoyant) underwater than they are on land, but the resistance of the water on the movement of the weight probably negates this
     
  6. ices

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    If it's slow enough that resistive forces are negligible, the buoyant force will make it easier.

    If speed is not negligible, then it's a function of the properties of the weight (cross sectional area, area, surface finish, shape, etc), the water (density (sea water, impurities?), viscosity (composition, temperature?)), the speed, and a relationship of all of the above (Reynolds number).

    There's no way to know.
     
  7. Buzz Killington

    Buzz Killington nunc fortunatus sum

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    Alias does this already, he finds fissures in the tectonic plates and deadlifts them.
     
  8. ccrooks

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    so Alias and mf101 walk into a bar...
     
  9. Frank Dux

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    Mind boggling

    I voted equal. Due to the fact that I think once you got it up off the ground, it'd be easier the rest of the way, but harder initially due to the water.
     
  10. GTLifter

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    revenge of the nerds?
     
  11. Frank Dux

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    In for all the broly's getting it wrong :mamoru:
     
  12. planeh

    planeh Guest

    are you implying that you have the correct answer?
     
  13. ccrooks

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    don't make me draw a physics diagram...
     
  14. GTLifter

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    dude works for Raytheon...he aint no chump when it comes to math and shit...
     
  15. NUDES

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    DE training is worthless in the sport of powerlifting. DE water training would be just as bad.
     
  16. CPop

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    A lot of people agree with you.
     
  17. NUDES

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    I really dont think it does much man. Could be wrong, know people still do it.. but still lol
     
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    Only thing it did for me was beat my elbows to shit.
     
  19. Zaffir

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    I deadlift with life preservers attached to the bar, so easier.
     
  20. cleethree

    cleethree hangin' around...

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    the plane takes off
     
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    You're all wrong, it would be harder unless you're fucking Aquaman and can breathe under water!!
     
  22. HorseDick

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    I say easier
     
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    I'm in the soft sciences.
     
  25. CPop

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    IMO DE theory will work, but the implementation of it leaves something to be desired. From what I've studied, it is more important to have the intention of being fast.

    I am a fast lifter and I usually don't get much out of DE, if anything. I think going through the process of training DE in the old school westside style helped me, but I've always thought it had a lot to do with doing so many sets and practicing what was for me a new style of benching (elbows tucked, etc).

    I think bands are a better way to train rate of force development, as is just staying tight and plain old fashioned SFW, but then again, Vincent Dizenzo just raw benched 605 and he loves the DE method.

    When westside was super popular back maybe 5-6 years ago, most of the guys there had pretty huge raw benches. That style of training fell out of favor as more shirt work and better shirts eclipsed getting overall stronger, but who knows.

    I generally don't recommend it to people unless they are unusually slow. Then just the practice of moving a bar fast helps them.
     
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