I finally test drove the cars, and right now it is a toss up between these two cars. Honda LX-S: MSRP: $18,700 (includes destination) 26/34mpg 140hp 128tq 5spd manual Alloy Wheels Pros: -Very Reliable (my family owns mostly Hondas, they lasted us 8-10 years each with minimal work) -Cheap To Fix (from experience) -Great MPG according to owners (35-40mpg) -Good Handling, decent pickup Cons: -Steering wheel is small (felt wierd) -Cheap interior -Rear Drum Brakes Mazda 3 iTouring: MSRP: $18,170 (includes destination) 25/33mpg 148hp 135tq 5spd manual Alloy Wheels Pros: -Front + Rear Disc brakes -DSC + TCS (Good for the snow, I live in a place with lots of it) -Nice Interior -Good Handling, I cant say much about pickup, since I drove the one with 167hp because they did not have a148hp manual on the lot). Cons: -Mazda Unreliable (Mother's Miata goes to the shop every month with a new problem since the first month she bought it new) -Expensive Parts (that is what I am told) -Okay gas mileage (I have read 25-30mpg actual) Pretty much what I am looking for is a car with great MPG, reliability, will last 10 years, and cheap to repair. Honestly this car is to be my go to and from work and make those long trips home. I plan to pickup a RX7 FC, Supra Mark 3, MR2 AW11, 300zx Z31, or anything else old, rwd, manual, and cheap that is fun to drive for when I want to have some real fun.