A&P Maximum Print Sizes?

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  1. 1200mk

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    What's the maximum recommended print size for a 10 MP camera?
     
  2. hsubaru

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    Change the dpi of your print until you find it unacceptable.

    I have a 36x24 that looks great from my D200.
     
  3. 1200mk

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    what kind of printer?

    and how far was the viewing distance?
     
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    11ty billion by 11ty billion

    theres billboards made from 3mp cams. It all has to do with how its upsized and proper viewing distance.

    I print 16x24s all the time from my 8mp cam.
     
  5. 1200mk

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    how do you upsize an image?
     
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    Dunno, my dad's friend has a printing business with some sort of large format printer.

    It looks good from... 2 feet away? :shrug:
     
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    there's a dude i know in orangburg that has a 300,000$ large format laser printer, i haven't used him to print anything out for me yet but i think he'd give me a decent discount. printer is fucking HUGE
     
  8. vwpilot

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    How big do you think you will need to make a print? I've got a photo from my 8mp MkIIN that has some cropping to it being used on an 8' x 5' transparency display that is going into a booth at a trade show.

    I regularly do 24x36 posters from the camera.

    its all about what your final output needs to be and how well they are processed.

    I can tell you one thing for sure, that the 8-12mp cameras that are out right now will produce BETTER enlargements at poster size and larger than any 35m frame of film will,without a doubt.

    You can upsize in many ways. You can simply do a resize using bicubic resizing in Photoshop in one step. You can use the old 10% method of bicubic resizing in Photoshop (multiple steps at 10% intervals till the final size is reached), you can use a dedicated program such as Genuine Fractals or PhotoZoom, or you can let a dedicated printer RIP program do the resize at the final printing.

    Dont worry about how big a 10mp can go, just go out and do it and you will be supremely impressed.
     
  9. 1200mk

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    awesome, thanks!
     
  10. JaimeZX

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    IByoupostapicofyourprinter :mamoru:




    J/K bro it's cool.

    Leroy, I've used www.jumbogiant.com before but others have had good experiences elsewhere as well.
     
  11. mojito

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    elcolabs.com
    mpix.com
     
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    Link to why this is needed?

    I've seen some posts on FM about the same kind of thing, but the other way.
     
  13. vwpilot

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    I dont have a link, but its pretty widely discussed.

    The idea is that its supposed to hold the quality better when the computer can create the needed pixels in small steps rather than having to create them all in one large step. Whether it works better than one step using the better algorithms that are out there now remains to be seen. I dont think its as necessary with current programs like it used to be.
     
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    So adobe traded speed for quality?
     
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    the seattle sonics photographer uses a 20d for the big billboards o_O imho they look a bit...um...choppy but not unacceptable
     
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    I have a 20x30in. print that was taken on my 8.1mp point and shoot. Looks perfect. I used www.shutterfly.com
     
  17. vwpilot

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    No.

    Adobe has always had bicubic interpolation available when upsizing. That is just one type of algorithm used for this kind of resizing.

    When you upsize, you have to create pixels. In a very basic way, the computer will look at the pixels and say if there are two red pixels, it can increase size by putting another red in between the two without hurting the quality.

    Of course its not that simple and the algorithm has to interpret what the photo really looks like working with the information on hand.

    The 10% rule was something that people came up with that allowed for the software to make its interpolation guesses in smaller increments, which should, in theory, allow for a more accurate final image.

    However, these days the algorithms have gotten so good and the many programs out there designed to do this have gotten good enough that I don think using the 10% rule gives any better results than just doing it in one large step.
     
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    Good info here.

    Although I barely understood the explanations... :o
     
  19. mattsb2000

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    Interesting. :coold:
     

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