Matrix = Bible?

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  1. the_anti_honda

    the_anti_honda Well-Known Member

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    The Machines were heaven/god

    Man used up his 1000 years of prosperity

    machines(god/heaven) proceeded to purge the world of sin(humans)

    apocolypse came

    yet one savior sacrificed himself to allow the humans another chance to prove themselves and not be sinners

    neo is the savior (jesus) and he sacrifices himself for mankind.

    this is so gay.
     
  2. Lacuta

    Lacuta :OG:

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    not really on the same track as the bible... but kinda close
     
  3. contactone

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    you can say that, but that is not the true end or meaning to the end...
     
  4. Grouch

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    In one word, no.
     
  5. 1337

    1337 Forget it, Jake. It's Chinatown.

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    Yes.

    But barely anyone understands the bible well enough.
     
  6. Grouch

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    because bible = only religion with a savior!!!!!!111

    :slap:
     
  7. CyberBullets

    CyberBullets I reach to the sky, and call out your name. If I c

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    its not just the bible, its more combinding of all global religions.

    ask ds3, he knows a ton more about it then i do. i just know what he tells me and try to understand.
     
  8. matt_c

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    :uh:

    YOU'RE

    and I don't agree with the Matrix trilogy being a bible based series, it'd be severely disappointing.
     
  9. CyberBullets

    CyberBullets I reach to the sky, and call out your name. If I c

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    its not biblical. its global religion!
     
  10. CyberBullets

    CyberBullets I reach to the sky, and call out your name. If I c

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    :slap: nope. every religion has a savior. and all of them work on the same cycle. a 7 unit cycle. in christianity its 7days, in hinduism, and eastern ones, its 7000 years.

    remember the 7th unit is always the sabbeth.
     
  11. Lacuta

    Lacuta :OG:

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    :slap:

    The whole movie is one big bible reference... even Lawrence Fishbourne was talking about it in an interview.
     
  12. Grouch

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    sarcasm and not reading other post > you :doh:
     
  13. umop apisdn

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    not exactly related, but...

    I forget exactly where I found this, but while we're on the bible topic:


    The Twins’ truck on the freeway: DE2852. Deutronomy 28:52 — They shall besiege you in all your towns, until your high and fortified walls, in which you trusted, come down throughout all your land. And they shall besiege you in all your towns throughout all your land, which the LORD your God has given you.

    Trinity and Morephus’ Cadillac on the freeway: DA203. Daniel 2:03 — I have had a dream that troubles me and I want to know what it means.

    Agent Smith’s Audi at the beginning: IS5416. Isaiah 54:16— Behold, I have created the smith that bloweth the coals in the fire, and that bringeth forth an instrument for his work; and I have created the waster to destroy.
     
  14. Jago

    Jago It helps if you hit it.

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    i agree.
     
  15. TrenT

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    Its about good vs. evil, positive vs. negative, matter vs. form,.....which in turn = every religion
     
  16. darthmushu

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    Not quite...I mean, it borrowed certain biblical themes, although it borrows from many different works. You can't say it is exactly like the bible. Plus, I realyl doubt there is more than a handful of people on here that qualify to say anything about the bible.
     
  17. the_anti_honda

    the_anti_honda Well-Known Member

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    yeah.....i am just very anti-religion and it bothers me when they put biblical themes into big blockbuster movies to brainwash our young.
     
  18. the_anti_honda

    the_anti_honda Well-Known Member

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    i have never been to church and yet i still grasp the subliminal messages of oppressive christianity.
     
  19. the_anti_honda

    the_anti_honda Well-Known Member

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    meh, not that big a deal, as much as i don't advocate door-to-door christians, i still can enjoy this movie at face value.

    i just noticed it and give the wachowski brothers less credit because they stole a story from two thousand year old work of fiction.
     
  20. TrenT

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    I'm going to quote myself becuase i dont think people saw this...

    The movie doesn't directly relate itself to any religion i have come in contact with, but it does take names and themes from other religions. Yea the entire movie deals with opposites, positive anomalies and their negative, good vs evil, matter vs form, neo vs. smith, whatever. But if you critisize the movie for using that theme, there is hardly any movie out there which follows a different theme. Sure there are different stories, but most still boil down to one thing vs. its opposite, usually one is portrayed as good, and the other evil. Especially when you're dealing with a trilogy epic. The good hobbits vs. the evil ogres, dark side vs light side, arnold vs terrorists.

    So if anybody dislikes this movie solely becuase it uses themes similar to those of the bible or of any other religion, you sir, are an idiot.
     
  21. the_anti_honda

    the_anti_honda Well-Known Member

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    i dislike this movie because if you look at the first one, it was not meant to follow this script.

    i think if the matrix was just a one-shot, it would be cool....they coulda left it off at the end of the first...

    but they decided to cash it in.
     
  22. TrenT

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    I think you're still in the mindset that these two movies were written solely to make the companies more money, or for whatever reason. The brothers had the trilogy written when they first got the go ahead on the first one, and if you look at it as that...and introduction to the second two, then the first one fits in perfectly. The first one was a good standalone movie, but as a whole it is more complete of a story if you include the second two.

    They didn't cash it in...becuase their original point of the movie included the entire trilogy.
     
  23. TrenT

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    I've found a religion that is perhaps directly related to the matrix :eek3:
    http://www.nationmaster.com/encyclopedia/Manicheanism

    a religion of dualism, good spiritual god vs bad form god. Neo would be the spiritual good god (obviously) becuase in several occasions he would leap towards the sky, such as when he fought agent smith in the last fight scene. Smith would then be the negative form god, the negative anomaly..Smith drove neo deep into the ground virtually as far as he could get away from the sky.

    Also related to manicheanism, is the thought that it tries to incorporate every known religion. Matrix does that with various names and numbers.
     
  24. chizzle

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    "This job will need to be done in 3 minutes and 4 seconds"

    Job 3:14 whatever that is.
     
  25. novacain

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    no, the job will need to be done in exactly 314 seconds.

    it doesn't refer to job 3:14....it refers to pi. the only anonmoly in counting. there are lots of references to it in the reloaded.

    theres a pi symbol when neo fights all the agents, and when he comes out of the oracle's apartment.

    its just more symbolism:)
     

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