MIL Marines - CFT. Your'e take?

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  1. Roshambo

    Roshambo Yes, I'm a Marine. No, I haven't killed anyone.

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    We were just discussing this in a meeting this morning. I had heard rumblings of it, but by June 2008 if you are in a "combat" oriented MOS, sounds like you better be ready for it.

    From the sounds of it, it shouldn't be too bad. I heard rumors of a 1.5 mile boots/utes flak and kevlar with dummy rifle run at one point. Sounds like that is getting the boot though.
     
  2. Insdav3

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    What if you're part of a infantry battalion? Or is it strictly combat MOS only?
     
  3. Roshambo

    Roshambo Yes, I'm a Marine. No, I haven't killed anyone.

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    Well, in it I see:

    "Physical fitness related to operational readiness, which is required to support the unit operational mission."



    :noes:
     
  4. NPH

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    I've heard it will be across the board (all MOS') :dunno:
     
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    Drunk Bastard Audio New Member

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    lol...whatever floats their boat.
     
  6. Roshambo

    Roshambo Yes, I'm a Marine. No, I haven't killed anyone.

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    Well, if they do it for other branches, they might get a ribbon for it! :bigthumb:
     
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    I got the Brief that they used up at the CMC office, there are 5 events that they are planning, all related to combat. Everyone has to do it, no matter what MOS.
     
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    thekinggovernor OT Supporter

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    anything will be better than the current PFT, which is just a pullup contest
     
  9. Roshambo

    Roshambo Yes, I'm a Marine. No, I haven't killed anyone.

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    It's a supplement to the PFT. Both will be done on the same day. :hsd:
     
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    thekinggovernor OT Supporter

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    do you have a link about the CFT?
     
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    TRN Well-Known Member

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    It wouldn't make much sense to try and limit it to certain MOS fields.

    All or none son!
     
  12. Roshambo

    Roshambo Yes, I'm a Marine. No, I haven't killed anyone.

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    PM me and I'll send you the powerpoint. ;)
     
  13. Insdav3

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    our battalion can't afford dummy rifles unless it comes from higher accounts :o
     
  14. Insdav3

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    however PFT scores are relevant to a "CFT" readiness. Low PFT = Low CFT :dunno:
     
  15. wdrentz

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    good most battalions could use heavier pt anyhow.. 1.5 with full gear isnt too bad :hsd:
     
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    pull ups are not a good indicator of combat fitness
     
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    Twisted STi All wheel or no wheel OT Supporter

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    im so glad im out
     
  18. Insdav3

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    high pull ups = upper body strength
    runtime = cardiovascular fitness ability
    situps = unless properly counted, = useless.


    This "CFT" is useless for reservists because 1/2 the fuckers are going to fallout anyway. What are you going to do? Put them on a "at-home" program? :rofl: it's not like they're going to come into the drill center for the following month and get PT'ed to death.

    All it's going to do is hurt us in terms of numbers if they get 'admin seperated', discharged or whatever. And then we'll be non-deployable. We've already got the body fat / weight regulation which people can get kicked out for, and PFT failure options, etc.

    I guess it helps people like me, who have a high PFT, rifle score, etc. However, I just feel like this is another Marine Corps brass bullshit where they just sit around jacking off thinking of retarded ideas to implement. How about more mout / clearing training requirements? How about required machine gun training? How about more convoy ops training? Range shooting with RCO's (since we don't use iron sites in iraq)?.
     
  19. Insdav3

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    The only thing we really had to pass was back in MCT where we were tested on all the weapon systems, saw, 240, grenades, AT4, mout/clearing, humps, etc etc.... but all this knowledge is lost over time, you know? I think things need to be more serious when it comes to combat when you're in the reserve 'fleet' :hsugh: . Stupid 'tests' like taking a hump with a flak and kevlar / rifle is something we already do, but you're just getting scored :dunno: . We need more actual skills training that's going to help us not get killed. We need personal experiences and stories, what happened, how we can change, what worked, and what didn't from the ENLISTED side. In my company we have experience on ECP's, mounted patrols, sentries, search teams, snipers, etc etc etc....In Fallujah. Why not take that and learn from it instead of "okay this drill we are going to test you on a 1.5 mile hump :gay: and wait around for 8 hours doing nothing and just wait for the officers to finish their meeting".
     
  20. wdrentz

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    LOLOLOL you got it mayne :hsd:........ i suppose
     
  21. spook

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    We were introduced to some of the events last week, the harder the physical requirements in the Marine Corps the better.
     

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