MIL Marine PLC

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  1. Casino

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    Long story short, Been in Army ROTC for 1.5 years, but they won't give me any scholarship money because they are out, parents won't support me anymore because they don't like the military. I want to be an officer when I graduate, so I'm looking into the Marine PLC program now. Basically I would go to OCS summer after my junior year (this upcoming summer) and be commissioned after I graduate. The Marines will give me enough money to help pay for tuition. I can get aviation guaranteed in my contract, though I might want a ground combat job, not sure yet. Anyone have any thoughts or ideas?
     
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    have you talked to the recruiter? i wanted to go Marine PLC, but I only had two years before I graduated/commissioned so I couldn't because I didn't have enough time

    and my understanding is they can guarantee you an aviation slot, but not WHAT you'll be flying or something like that. it sounds good, but theres some sort of stipulation

    and if you're going marines, be a rifle platoon leader.
     
  3. Casino

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    I have an appointment an a Marine officer recruiter on Monday. I talked to him on the phone and I am eligible, I would attend the 10 week course. You are correct that they do not guarantee what you fly, it all depends on how well I do at flight school, but I will get to fly something. I am also strongly considering infantry.
     
  4. Julius

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    the army will throw out bonuses for shitbag recruits, but they can't even sponsor an upcoming officer.

    amazing.
     
  5. kazimer

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    sounds cool, especially if aviation is what you want to do. Also it seems the Marines allow their regular officers fly for their entire career (or at least a great part of it) unlike the Army. Max of 3-5 years from my aviation buddies and then they flew just enough to maintain their required hours
     
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    Sounds like you'll be doing PLC-Combined which will be 10 weeks like you said but you may not get to go this summer but might have to wait until next summer/after you graduate. It took me a few months to get my package put together and sent in to the board. I ended up get approved by the board in December (I think) to go to PLC that following summer. I was told by my recruiter that if i my package didn't get picked up in December, I would more than likely have to wait until the next summer to go to training. that may have been bullshit but who knows? Your recruiter should be able to give you the scoop on whats do-able.
     
  7. mothafknCHARLIEnshit

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    yep, it makes me sick. i didn't get a scholarship either, but it doesn't really bother me. i'd trade my backpack for a rucksack anyday. they even have the audacity to say they need more officers, and they wonder why the retention rate is so low.

    i'll tell you why, cause there are guys like me that if i don't get infantry or armor, i'm getting out after my 4 years. if i did get the branches i wanted, i'd stick around prob for a career. and yet i have friends (westpointers) that got armor/infantry and don't want it. the whole system is jacked up.
     
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    I finished the first six weeks this past summer, looking forward to finishing up
     
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    :roflw: the more i do research, the more i'm like "wait, an enlistee with a working proficiency in arabic can get a bonus, but as an officer with fluency in it i wouldn't be able to"....BRILLIANT!
     
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    :eek3: how was it? crazy and intense?
     
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    :hs:
     
  12. spook

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    compared to boot it was pretty easy, but as your first military experience it will challenge you
     
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    marine corp is probably the most intimidating of the armed services in terms of training right?
     
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    It's important that you get into some semblance of physical shape. Concentrate on running three miles and long marches (up to 10 miles). Sit-ups and pull-ups are also important. If you are unable to perform basic exercises, you may spend a significant amount of time in PCP (the Physical Conditioning Platoon). PCP is tough: PCP's objective is physical fitness, and that's what you'll be conentrating in while in the program. Individual remain in PCP until they can While it is normally a 21 day program, once you're in, you don't get out until you can do 3 pull ups, 40 sit ups in 2 minutes, and run 3 miles in 28:00 minutes.

    If you arrive overweight, your Drill Instructor will put you on a "Diet Tray" for your meals. (On the other hand, if you arrive underweight, you may be put on "double-rations.")

    In Marine boot camp, you'll start drill almost immediately. A few hours studying basic drill and ceremony will help immensely. As with the other services, you should memorize U.S. Marine Corps Rank.
    Additionally, your recruiter should have told you to memorize the 11 General Orders for a Sentry. While not mandatory, the Marine Rifle Creed is nice to know. You should also memorize the Marine's Hymn, all of it, if possible, but at least the first verse.

    Wait -- that's not all (I told you it was tough). You'll need to memorize the USMC Core Values, study Marine Corps history, and commit the characteristics of the M16A4 Rifle to memory. Round all of this out by memorizing the Code of Conduct.
    If you don't know how to swim, try to learn before you leave for boot camp. Before you graduate, you'll have to demonstrate basic swimming skills.

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  15. Casino

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    I know with the Army, you can get a contract that lets you go to BCT and has a guaranteed slot for OCS. Can I get a contract like that with the Marines? It would be nice if I could go to basic this upcoming summer, and go to OCS the following summer.
     
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    my buddy was a marine corps officer and he went the route of OCS then The Basic School. then branch training came after successful completion of both
     
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    Ok, this is boot information so this does not apply to OCC or PLC.

    I started my package in early March of this year for Marine PLC and was contracted and selected in April before leaving at the end of May. It depends on how bad they want you really and my OSO was very good.

    The most important thing by far for getting selected is your PFT. You want to be at 275+ at minimum in my opinion. My contract PFT was a 275 and my pre-ship PFT was a 295 b/c I couldn't get my chin over on the last pullup.

    Yes, you can be guaranteed aviation with a passing score on the ASTB, and only the Marines will do this.

    Just start training hard, but do it smart. I over trained before leaving and paid the price be getting hurt out there.

    Pullups, pushups, dips, situps and running over and over.
     
  18. Casino

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    There is 1 other option. I can stay in ROTC, and get GRFD scholarship that will pay 100% tuition, room and board, meal plan, books, and stipend. With that though I have to join the National Guard. I'd do SMP while in college and be obligated to serve 8 years in the Guard when I graduate. If there was some way to switch to active duty after commissioning I would consider it.

    I have some problems with that, maybe you all can prove me wrong, or at least make me feel better about it. Whenever I see NG solders, they look like slobs. Active Duty soldiers tell me they never trust NG's in combat. If I'm going to be in a war, I want to be with some of the best and I do not see that in the NG. Secondly, I wanted to go active duty so I got the full Army experience. If I go Guard I'll have to find a civilian job, and I have no idea what I would want to do.
     
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    When I first joined the Army Reserve in 2003, one of our NCOs (E5) told us (IET Soldiers) that the Reserve/Guard is the hardest job in the world. You have to balance your civilian life and your military life. As a Reservist, you will be working your civilian job five days a week, and then, all of the sudden, you have to leave all that behind. You have to get ready to mobilize and deploy. Hearing this from him and experiencing it first hard, I can tell you that the Guard and Reserve are some of the finest soldiers in the U.S. Armed Forces.
     
  20. Casino

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    I'm also hearing that because of a large shortage of officers in the reserves and NG, the Army is starting to force lots of ROTC cadets into guard and reserve duty. Anyone know of any truth to this?
     
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    There is a way to switch to active duty while on commission in the reserve bro.

    there's a form you can fill out and submit to your superiors. obviously it's in their discretion but it's pretty routine and usually takes 2-3 months for turn around. :bigthumb:

    Just make sure you're a competitive candidate that the army would want as active duty bro, because i've heard some people also get turned down for it. :hs:
     
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    So that means I can get out of a GRFD contract?
     
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    With a valid conditional release, you can get out of any military contract so long as you fulfill the new conditions. :dunno:

    That said, it's up to both services to approve you for it.
     
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    mothafknCHARLIEnshit omghi2u

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    my understanding is that this is VERY branch dependent. if you are a reserves or NG Infantry officer, you are almost guaranteed NOT to be able to go AD, it just won't happen.

    i imagine that is true for all the really "fun" or competitive branches, such as aviation, armor, infantry, mi, etc.

    thats what a NG guy told me atleast
     
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    Damn, I was definitely planning on going infantry.
     

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