SRS Marijuana?

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  1. JediMasterJoel

    JediMasterJoel New Member

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    I know Chappelle got run down in his fictionised account in "Half Baked" but are things serious for a marijuana addict?

    Although, primarily it should be about self-control, things can get hectic on marijuana. Personally, have struggled to quit for over 2 years, and still can not go for more than 5 or so days without reverting (through various excuses) to getting high. I blamed boredom, curse the notion of needing to quit, attribute it as a positive thing.

    But the reality is, when you abuse it (just like any other mind-altering substance) it can take you on a road of mixed reactions. I would NEVER substitute the values of peace, humanity, spirituality and objectionability that marijuana has subjected to me - truly a timeless "Marijuana Opened My Mind" tale. But I have also experienced, first hand (and experiencing) a "Cannabis Psychosis". I beleived I am talking to and contacting personalities in an effort for world peace, I took myself seriously when I proclaim that I am God, the Devil, Jesus and the Anti-Christ. Mentally, it get's hectic. I contemplated suicide and experienced extreme rage over my delusions.

    I am currently on day two of not smoking marijuana habitually. I will never cease the action, in fact I would like to bring back the ritual and wonder of the past-time.

    Thanks for reading.
     
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  2. OniMinion

    OniMinion ...recalls when this forum was actually about cars OT Supporter

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    Doesn't sound like any experience I've had with MJ. Are you taking anything else at the same time (i.e., Alcohol, Barbiturates, Anti-depressants)?

    Research has also shown that there is NOTHING in marijuana that is "addicting". So far as your addiction is concerned, it's strictly psychological. How old are you? If you're 16 or younger this could explain some of what you are experiencing.
     
  3. JediMasterJoel

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    21 years old, good sir. Straight laced watch repairer. I rarely drink, and have not done anything stronger in over a year.

    Could be my personality, and I have it well under control.
     
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    I have been smoking for a little over a year (19). I have never had any delusions or any mental problems. No real addiction either. I would got 3-4 weeks without smoking and just smoke when someone wanted to. Only thing is that when I have it I tend to want to smoke about every other day, but I just find it so calming and fun that it is a good way to end the day.
     
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    Is it possible you could have some health issue that is not related to marijuana? Some studies suggest the possibility of psychosis from marijuana use in a tiny portion of the population.

    In PLOS Medicine, an Australian public health policy specialist wrote that genetically vulnerable teens who smoke marijuana more than once a week ''appear at greater risk of psychosis," while the British medical journal BMJ cited estimates that marijuana use could contribute to about 10 percent of cases of psychosis.

    http://www.boston.com/yourlife/heal...studies_link_psychosis_teenage_marijuana_use/

    The studies show a POSSIBLE correlation between teens smoking pot and an increased risk of psychosis. I take these studies with a grain of salt though, as there just has not been enough work done to constitute proof. Any other drugs you did in the past, I know you said you have refrained for a year, but past use of hard drugs could be a factor as well.

    Some people believe that these psychosis results might be more of a case of people who already have psychosis attempting to self medicate, but the data is simply not clear.

    More reading, if you are interested........

    http://web4health.info/en/answers/add-hash-psychosis.htm

    http://www.mapinc.org/drugnews/v09/n559/a05.html

    http://web.lemoyne.edu/~hevern/storiedconduct/files/Cannabis and psychosis.html
     
  6. i killed tupac

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    sounds like psychosis, which can be an effect of marijuana usage. Anytime you go tinker with your neurochemicals, you're asking for trouble.

    what happens when you quit smoking pot?
     
  7. djshotglass

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    Don't listen to the assholes that say marijuana isn't addictive. They aren't fooling anyone but themselves. I was a heavy smoker and I quit recently. When I quit I get insomnia, anxious, irritable, low sex drive, low appetite, etc. I don't care how you want to classify an addiction, mental, physical, whatever, an addiction is an addiction.

    Sure withdrawing from weed isn't anywhere near as bad as drugs like heroin but that doesn't change the fact that it can be very hard to quit for many people.

    Another interesting thing I've noticed is that I never remember my dreams while I'm smoking but once I quit I start remembering them again. I can also better maintain conversations with people. It's like I actually have things to say. My motivation for quitting is so that I can be myself again. I'm a different person when I'm addicted to weed. Lazy, boring, and uncaring.
     
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    Which can be triggered by drug use.
     
  9. Deviance

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    I actually went to rehab for pot. Everyone thought it was hilarious. I couldnt quit. I wasn't addicted to pot though. I was using pot to treat something else and didnt know it. They gave me real meds and I went months without smoking. As it turns out though, I prefer pot more than pills. The pills were fucking up my liver so I switched back to pot.
     
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    Oh yeah I forgot the other main reason I was addicted to weed is that I have chronic pain. I don't know how I'm going to deal with this shit now :/
     
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    I hate admitting it, but I'm a pot addict. Yes, I'm psychologically addicted.
    If I don't have any I do okay for days at a time, but if it's in the house I'm smoking it a couple times a day.
    I work at a corp job at where I go in 6:30 am. Funny thing is I think to myself before leaving "I shouldn't smoke before going to work". Then it's like a dogmatic response... I want to smoke before going to work. My performance is good when I get to work. I'm not blown out of my mind or anything, but I don't like thinking that I CAN'T go without smoking once I realize that I shouldn't.
     
  12. jc_smith

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    Just because you have a certain experience with Marijuana doesn't mean it applies to all or that it's an absolute side effect of smoking/ingesting the herb. EVERYONE reacts to Marijuana DIFFERENTLY. I happen to be one of the people who have no problem quiting marijuana cold turkey. Now cigarettes, that's a different story :o
     
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    It isn't unknown that marijuana can exasperate psychotic tendencies in people who already had them.

    Remember that marijuana isn't physically addictive, merely psychologically addictive. I'd recommend going on a long trip (2+ weeks) somewhere where you cant get marijuana and DO NOT bring any with you. Delete all of your marijuana contacts and inform people who you regularly smoke with that you are quitting when you return from your trip so if they're going to be smoking in front of you you can't hang out with them. Also ask them not to offer it to you and if they do, make it a point to refuse. Simply do not allow yourself to justify getting high if you truely want (or need) to quit.

    Good luck, sir. If marijuana gets this kind of grip on you and causes psychosis then I would recommend not smoking it. As with every drug there are some people who simply shouldn't use marijuana.
     
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    I'm pretty sure that it is only in people who already have psychotic tendencies.

    I would have, at one time, considered my self a heavy user. However, never have I had trouble getting off and my justification for smoking at any point in time after is simply to enjoy it, much as is my justification for drinking or doing anything else I enjoy. Also, never have I felt it caused me to become psychotic in any way. In fact, I have mild-moderate anxiety (from way before I ever smoked weed for the first time) and when I smoke on a regular basis I don't get anxiety, stone cold sober or stoned.
     
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  15. Shapedoctor

    Shapedoctor Omnivore, & Author of the Shapedoctor Manifesto

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    I'm a recovering alcoholic that smokes pot. It's addictive, but less so than my addiction to coffee so I don't worry about it any more than I do the coffee.
     
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    Physically, yes, but you dont get hours of euphoria from coffee and anything pleasurable can become a problematic addiction if you're not careful. :bigthumb:
     
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    how can you recover from one thing while being intoxicated by another
     
  18. Eurostaunch

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    You don't typically get hours of euphoria from pot either... Have you even tried it? I have personally gotten hours of euphoria, albeit mild, from coffee.
     
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    One is thousands of times less toxic than the other. That is likely the rationale. Also, cannabis does not impair you as much as alcohol. This is because of the fact that, while it does cause drowsiness, it is not technically a sedative (it does not lower one's heartrate/ breathing rate).
     
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    That makes absolutely no sense at all. You can't recover being addicted to one thing, while taking another mind altering substance. I don't care how "toxic" it is. The toxicity is not why you're addicted to it.
     
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    It makes perfect sense. One addiction is more damaging than the other. The toxicity is a measure of this potential damage. If he stopped drinking he has overcome his alcohol addiction. He may be replacing it with another drug, but he has still stopped drinking.

    Something tells me if he replaced alcohol with coffee only, you would have no problem with it, despite the fact that he would still be *taking another mind altering substance*.

    Just how many people have died as a direct result of marijuana consumption? Depending on the source it is anywhere from zero to a few. Alcohol kills endless thousands every year. The physical addiction to alcohol is also exponentially more severe than that of marijuana. (See: Delirium Tremens).

    You should care how toxic something is, it is reckless and irresponsible not to.
     
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    It's reckless to think that finding another addiction is in any way shape or form going to help you recover from another.
     
  23. Eurostaunch

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    Would you think it was reckless if he was replacing it with just a coffee addiction? All addictions do not have the same implications. I love how you dodged all my points and just gave a half-assed response :rolleyes:.

    It's not reckless if the replacement drug is thousands of times less toxic, dur! Again, if it helped him stopped drinking completely, then he has recovered from the addiction to alcohol.

    Next time try to offer more then a single-sentence simplistic generalization; think you could handle that?
     
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    i love weed
     
  25. AgentKyu

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    noone gets addicted to weed

    read the rules

    <3
     
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