MIL Man, I love that F22!

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  1. Jyokker

    Jyokker The trouser snake is very aggressive. It will corn

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    Wynne: Drawdown needs to stop after 2009 cuts

    By Erik Holmes - Staff writer
    Posted : Wednesday Sep 26, 2007 5:54:39 EDT

    WASHINGTON, D.C. — The Air Force will not shrink the force beyond the 40,000 airmen already targeted to be cut by the end of fiscal 2009, Air Force Secretary Michael W. Wynne said Monday.

    “We cannot see our way clear to a further reduction of our war-fighting force,” Wynne told reporters at the Air Force Association’s Air and Space Conference and Technology Exposition in Washington, D.C.

    Wynne said last week that much of the savings from the drawdown were being diverted to unexpected expenditures, and that the plan to cut airmen in order to buy new airplanes is not working.

    Rather than cut deeper, he said, the Air Force intends to find the money for recapitalization by retiring older aircraft that are expensive to maintain, find savings by implementing more efficient practices force-wide, and make a strong case to Congress and the Defense Department that the Air Force needs more money.

    Cliffs: AF tries to save a buck by laying off people, only to be penny-wise and pound-foolish.

    http://www.airforcetimes.com/news/2007/09/airforce_forcesize_070924/
     
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    sweet so if I make it past 2009 im home free
     
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    FATBOY OT Supporter

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    I re-enlisted back in May. That puts me out to 2013. :eek4: l
     
  4. seven

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    F-22 and JSF = Officer Forceshape Boards


    It's my unqualified opinion as an aircraft engineer, that both the F22 and JSF are not worth the money.


    We should invest more into unmanned aircrafts, it's clearly the future of air warfare, with less risk to personal, much cheaper unit production, better performance, and no artificial human limitation.

    It's already been said that F22 and JSF are the last generation of manned fighters, why waste so much money on them when we can spend that money on UAV research?
     
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    AFSO21 lols
     
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    ManinCamo I wear big boy pants.

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    Great, that does me a lot of good for my Feb '08 force shaping board...
     
  7. Jyokker

    Jyokker The trouser snake is very aggressive. It will corn

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    I hope you like the F-22!
     
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    whitecouch spendin' our golden years in OT Supporter

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    The military is not ready yet.
     
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    MrRyan Gary Johnson 2016 OT Supporter

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    F-22! Fuck Yeah! 328 Million Dollar Flying Piece of Shit!
     
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    Jyokker The trouser snake is very aggressive. It will corn

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    :rofl: did you even read the post?
     
  11. FATBOY

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    Prove it. :x:
     
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    bullshit. pilots aren't ready for it yet. A general asks to have hellfire missiles on a UAV on a whim, and they get put on and tested successfully in 5-6 months. You put money into anything and you will get results. f22 and f35's are really cool planes, but i dont think we need them that badly, our current war isn't one we are gonna win with more/better planes.
     
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    MrRyan Gary Johnson 2016 OT Supporter

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    I already did when I said "328 Million Dollars"
     
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    Of course...but then again I'll begin to worry about AF personnel manning issues when I stop seeing E-4's running the TLF desk in Spangdahlem.
     
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    F-22 I can see doing. But the F-35 is a total waste of money.

    Who wants to bet the AF offers huge reenlistment bonuses to pretty much everyone again in a couple of years because they can't retain people?? Anyone??
     
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    When our commanders are no longer "command pilots" what will become of the Air Force? Seriously.
     
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    MrRyan Gary Johnson 2016 OT Supporter

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    Bullshit. F-35 is about the only smart thing to come from the F-22 program.
     
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    Jyokker The trouser snake is very aggressive. It will corn

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    Maaaaaaaybe we should contract those services out to Blackwater!
     
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    MrRyan Gary Johnson 2016 OT Supporter

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    Fuck that. Hire the wives / spouses @ $7.95/hr like everybody else does.
     
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    328 Million Dollars = Air Superiority!
     
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    Jyokker The trouser snake is very aggressive. It will corn

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    You do know I was being sarcastic... ...right?
     
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    I don't think that a 40k reduction is even a good idea. The AF is taking care of convoys when the army can't do it, the deployment rate is gonna increase to make up for fewer people being available for going overseas. Yeah, the quality of life of the airmen is a worthwhile investment, but they're gonna have a hard time keeping people in when they get deployed once or twice more every year. Unless they're single and like the money involved.
     
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    And tell me...when was the last time we fought anybody in the air?
     
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    Of course...but I'm keeping it real bro! :hsugh:
     
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    Jyokker The trouser snake is very aggressive. It will corn

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    Iraq.
     

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