GUN Man Holding Toy Gun Shot To Death By Police

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  1. TL1000RSquid

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    Man Holding Toy Gun Shot To Death By Police

    POSTED: 8:08 am PDT October 5, 2007
    UPDATED: 6:33 pm PDT October 5, 2007
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    BAKERSFIELD, Calif. -- A man holding a replica toy gun was shot to death by a pair of Bakersfield police officers after they found him standing on the sidewalk of a south Bakersfield street early Friday morning.

    According to the Bakersfield Police Department, Frank Ramos Sr., 49, made a 911 call from his home on Auberry Ave. at 1:33 a.m., claiming there was a man outside with a gun.

    The 911 dispatcher said they could hear Ramos repeatedly saying, "Shoot someone..." over the phone. The dispatcher called back and Ramos' son answered and said Ramos went for a walk.

    A patrol car drove into the neighborhood on Faith avenue. Police officers in the car saw Ramos on the sidewalk.

    They flashed their spotlight at him. When they pulled up to Ramos, police said Ramos pulled out the replica toy gun and pointed it at officers Robert Robles and Robert Pair.

    The officers got out of the car and after several orders for him to drop the toy gun, Robles and Pair both fired at Ramos, striking him several times.

    Ramos was taken to Kern Medical Center, where he died in the operating room.

    His family said they don't know how or why he ended up with a toy gun.

    Bakersfield.com reports the man's wife, Louisa Ramos, is seeking an attorney. She said her husband called the police, and that he was trying to scare away someone he thought was breaking into his car. The news site also mentioned the family said there was an orange tip to the toy gun, so officers should have known the gun was a fake.

    Both officers are on paid administrative leave.

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    Sounds like a clean shoot to me, suicide by cop. Fuck Louisa and her lawyers the PD should send a bill for ammo to her.
     
  2. idleprocess

    idleprocess Bring a dollar with you baby in the cold cold grou

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    Hm, don't see an orange tip on it in the photo. Either the "victim" removed it, or perhaps the cops did afterwards (not that it matters - the presence of an orange tip doesn't guarantee that it's a toy). Intense stupidity on the part of the "victim" regardless.
     
  3. P07r0457

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    I 100% support the cops actions if that article is correct.

    It is not beyond a criminal to paint an orange tip on a real firearm, and the presence or lack of an orange tip should NOT be taken into consideration in an officer's decision to open fire.

    An item greatly resembling a firearm was pointed at two men who were obviously law enforcement, identified themselves as such, and issued several warnings before the man made himself clear he was unwilling to comply; therefore officers did what they felt neccessary.
     
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    Sounds like the police are in the clear to me. Don't point a gun at the police, real or fake.
     
  5. kellyclan

    kellyclan She only loves you when she's drunk.

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    Nice to see when stupid hurts.
     
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    suicide-by-cop is the most fucked up way to off yourself.
     
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  8. t1h

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    don't point a gun (real or fake) at a cop unless you want to get shot.
     
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    if the report is true that he pointed any gun toy or otherwise at the cops, I believe they did the correct thing. As long as the gun was pointed at the cops and simply not claimed to have been pointed at a later time I support the officer's decision to open fire.
     
  10. P07r0457

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    pretty sure video recorders are standard in cruisers, now.
     
  11. spankaveli

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    Good shoot imo.
     
  12. Slick26

    Slick26 Gun|Bike|Cigar|PS3|Beer |Whisky|Night Crew

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    If he's stupid enough to do that, he's stupid enough to have done something else stupid, or more stupid.
    One more dumbass out of our lives. Cops are in the clear IMO.
     
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    It was also 1:30 in the morning, they mentioned having to use their spotlight. That would make it a whole lot harder on the officers, hell I'd shoot if he pointed a rubberband gun at me in the dark. And like already said, you can't just let down your guard just because you see an orange tip. Too risky.
     
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    suicide-by-cop. such a shitty thing to do.
     

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