GUN Man charged with killing suspected car burglar

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  1. TL1000RSquid

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    Man charged with killing suspected car burglar
    http://www.wreg.com/Global/story.asp?S=8103779
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    * 22-year-old man charged with voluntary manslaughter
    * Police say he shot a man breaking into his car
    * Shooting victim's family demands answers

    (MEMPHIS, TN 4/1/2008) A 22-year-old man is behind bars after he took the law into his own hands. Police say he shot and killed a man he caught breaking into his car.

    The shooting happened at the Pinewood Manor Apartments in Whitehaven early Monday morning. Christopher Simmons has been charged with voluntary manslaughter.

    The man he's accused of shooting has been identified as Kendrick Watkins. According to court records, he has been in trouble with the law before. But his family says that doesn't justify in any way what happened to him.

    Police say Simmons unloaded his pistol on Watkins as the 22-year-old ran from the scene. According to court papers, Watkins stole a TV monitor out of Simmons' vehicle. He took off on foot as Simmons fired several shots at him.

    "The only time you can use deadly force is if you fear for you life and normally you cannot shoot someone who is breaking into your vehicle," said Lt. Col. Mark McClain of the Memphis Police Department during an interview on Monday.

    It appears Simmons was fed up. According to court papers, he told police his car had been broken into four times in the past year.

    "You can't kill nobody because you're sick of something," said Watkins' sister-in-law, Andrica Sawyer.

    "I just hurt," she said. "He's got two babies, [Simmons] didn't have to shoot him that many times. He didn't really have to shoot him at all."

    Watkins leaves behind two children, 1-year-old Alexander and her big brother Andravius. He just turned three Tuesday. They're too young to understand what happened, Sawyer says she may never understand either.

    "There's two parts to every story. We can't get the second part because Kendrick's gone," she said.

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    Fuck that he should get a goddamn medal.
     
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  3. Sardaukar

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    The guy should live in Texas.

    Edit: Andrica and Andravius. :ugh: Must have been Roman history buffs.
     
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    :rofl: I wonder what they'd say if I was taking their shit.

    Its terrible for kids to have to grow up without a dad. Its no better for them to have a a shitty role model either.
     
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    You can't burglarize a car.



    And that guy was an idiot for shooting the guy.
     
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    I DEFINITELY think, that had he been given 6 or 7 more chances, that he would have turned his life around and been a good father and a positive contributor to society.
     
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    Damn straight, motherfucker. Everyone deserves an eighth chance.
     
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    killing him was probably not a good decision. But I can't say I personally think it was wrong -- simply not the best legal move.


    If you're gonna shoot someone it had better be face-to-face. This makes it sound like he shot him in the back.
     
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    not the smartest move shooting someone for a tv, but you can bet that I would have at least threatened him with deadly force if he decides to move other than how I tell him.

    oh, and I love the perfect grammar of "you can't kill nobody..."
     
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    guess the race.
     
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    Andravius? Sounds like a fucking auto immune disease.
     
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    I was thinking more classical greek. I love the works of Euripides and Andravius.
     
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    While it may not be the smartest thing to do, shooting at a car burglar, yes, it is possible to burglarize a car.
    Burglary= Entering with intent to steal or commit a felony. A locked car with closed windows can indeed be burglarized, if the suspect entered unlawfully.
    ergo, breaking into locked car to steal shit=burglary.
    (in CA it's Penal Code section 459, don't know about TN but I bet the law there is fairly similar)
     
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    even in texas shooting someone in the back is dirty. By the law anyways.

    I wish it was legal. I'd for sure have 1 kill.:squint:

    edit: someone already said it, had it been face to face I'm sure he could argue the case differently. The article def makes it sound like he was shot in the back.
     
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    You have to be entering a dwelling at night with the intent to commit a felony.
     
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    Maybe in SC.....
    I looked up the CA statute, though.

    Every person who enters any house, room, apartment, tenement,
    shop, warehouse, store, mill, barn, stable, outhouse or other
    building, tent, vessel, as defined in Section 21 of the Harbors and
    Navigation Code, floating home, as defined in subdivision (d) of
    Section 18075.55 of the Health and Safety Code, railroad car, locked
    or sealed cargo container, whether or not mounted on a vehicle,
    trailer coach, as defined in Section 635 of the Vehicle Code, any
    house car, as defined in Section 362 of the Vehicle Code, inhabited
    camper, as defined in Section 243 of the Vehicle Code, vehicle as
    defined by the Vehicle Code, when the doors are locked
    , aircraft as
    defined by Section 21012 of the Public Utilities Code, or mine or any
    underground portion thereof, with intent to commit grand or petit
    larceny or any felony is guilty of burglary.



    cliffs: break into a place where someone lives, or into occupiable property, and if you're there to steal anything or commit any other felony, it's burglary. Read it.
     
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    You can shoot someone at night thats breaking into your car in TX.
     
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    :werd: Castle Doctrine>*
     
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    If cops can't shoot a car thief, what makes you think a citizen can?

    yes. i live in Arizona, not California.
     
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    Because it's legal in Texas, that's why. :dunno:
     
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    i thought everyone got a 9th chance? kinda like cat's and their 9 lives... :rofl:
     
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    because the car doesn't belong to the cop, and the citizen is (most likely) covered under the castle doctrine (depending on the state). were you joking or something?
     
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