machines harder than free weights?

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    do any of you guys have a machine in your gym thats substantially harder than free weights? My gym just got a new curl machine that my buddy was fooling around on, and he couldnt even curl 20 lbs on it... but he normally curls about 95lbs on free weights. wtf
     
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    a machine consists of levers, pulleys, the weight of the equipment, etc...

    loading the machine with an amount of weight has no direct comparison to doing a similar motion with a free weight...you would think this would be common sense :dunno:
     
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    plated loaded pullover is harder then a db pullover for me
     
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    that's what im saying..could be harder, could be easier....depends on the machine.
     
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    i think gerbil is right...i remember a thread about that a while ago. I guess it's feasible for the machine to be harder, but this machine is the only one I've seen (aside from the pullover and fly) that was way harder than the free weight version.
     
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    seated pullover locks you into the position so that you cant cheat...i think thats the main difference. Also if you ever used a chain driven old school 1970 machine....they are way harder then free weights. The friction alone makes it harder. So yes some machines are harder. Are kevlar pulldowns harder then say a pullup...pullups harder but doing your bw on the pulldown with correct form is close. Think about how much you can wide grip pulldown...now think about your pullup...bet the reps arent far off if you train both frequently. Also do pulldowns like i do...i dont sit..i kneel on the floor...try that an get back to me
     
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    Your friend probably has awful form with freeweights and is not used to isolating a muscle (kind of) like the machine forces you to do.
     
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    Lot more isolation with machines.
     
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