MAC TECHS: Know anything about creating Mac Masters? *details inside*

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  1. inamorata

    inamorata New Member

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    we need to create an OSX10.4 image at work that we can put onto macbookpros and mac pros and mac minis

    i created one that works no problem on mac pros and mac minis but went superdupered(sp?) onto a macbook pro, upon startup, the macbookpro kernal panics


    anyone? it would really help me out a lot! :wavey: thanks
     
  2. IcyHot4Life

    IcyHot4Life Str8 Ballin'

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    basic troubleshooting question: what is likely different between a base install of OS X and your install? I would imagine that the best base for an installation is from a genuine OS X install disc and not a recovery disc :dunno: we'd probably need more specifics here.
     
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    More details are definitely needed.

    What processors are you using? If they're all Intels, you're fine.
    How are you loading the OS?
    What methods are you doing before taking the image? I know there are caches you need to clear, couple other things that need deleted as well.
    What software are you using to take the image?

    If you need, I have a document complete with screenshots of how I create our images at work. Just send me a PM with your email.
     
  4. tenplanescrashing

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    my assumption is you need to do a base install on the MBP, the MP and the mini then create images from each one.
     
  5. inamorata

    inamorata New Member

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    i know that will work, but i wanted to make one for all three


    isnt that possible?
     
  6. Laserbeak

    Laserbeak Remember kids! Be like Billy! BEHAVE YOURSELVES!

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    I'm assuming you're using one of the install/restore discs that came with one of the Macs (since there was no such thing as a Tiger DVD for the Intel at the time)?

    I've created universal images for deployment from 10.2-10.4 and I found that it wasn't possible to have a one-size fits all image for Tiger. This was most likely due to the fact that the discs had specific drivers for each type of machine, and the install/restore disc that came with that computer was tailor-fit for that specific model, and wasn't designed to work with other models. As a result, I would be able to create and deploy images from Mac Minis to Mac Minis for example, but they would tank when I tried to put that same image on a MacBook, with problems going as far as popping up the dreaded GSOD upon boot.

    You can make a universal image in Tiger, but it will just be for PowerPC Macs. AFAIK, Leopard should have resolved this problem, though, albeit I'm not sure many organizations are enthusiastic on doing a mass migration to Leopard right now.

    Let me know if you have any other questions.
     
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    i'm actually not using the machine specific disks, i am using a universal copy of Tiger, and that image works on Mac Pros and Mac Minis but NOT Macbook Pros
     
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    Laserbeak Remember kids! Be like Billy! BEHAVE YOURSELVES!

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    I've never heard of a "universal" copy of Tiger existing and available for sale, how did you manage to get that? Maybe it's a homebrew disc, or a very late version of Tiger (i.e. 10.4.10)? I asked contacts at Apple that work for the development team in the past when Tiger was out and they said that there would be no supported one-size-fits-all Intel OS X installer until Leopard.

    Anyhow, these KB articles look like they address your issue, but it may not be what you want to hear: :hs:

    http://docs.info.apple.com/article.html?artnum=306051
    http://docs.info.apple.com/article.html?artnum=303315

    Keep in mind that the build that's on the image MUST much one of the build numbers for that model in the second link, or else the target computer WILL TANK when you try to boot it. You can find the build of Tiger that you're using by going to Apple Menu -> About This Mac, and clicking the text immediately below the Mac OS X logo; it'll tell you what build you're using. It's a useful tool to use when planning deployments for this particular version of the OS, so you know what will work on what computers, and what won't work.
     
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    the install disks were all universal...:dunno:
     
  10. Laserbeak

    Laserbeak Remember kids! Be like Billy! BEHAVE YOURSELVES!

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    The retail version?
     
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    yes
     
  12. Laserbeak

    Laserbeak Remember kids! Be like Billy! BEHAVE YOURSELVES!

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    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mac_OS_X_v10.4

    http://web.archive.org/web/20070206...bObjects/AppleStore?productLearnMore=MA453Z/A
    http://forums.macrumors.com/showthread.php?t=280357
    http://www.ehmac.ca/mac-ipod-help-t...tall-tiger-retail-disc-recent-intel-macs.html
    http://macosx.com/forums/hardware-peripherals/296364-mac-book-pro-boot-problem.html
    http://forums.macrumors.com/showthread.php?t=407364
    http://www.123macmini.com/forums/vi...previous&sid=ddb66462cf1e88a8a0c21999f1bc71dd

    The non-OEM, retail version of Tiger (the black DVD, NOT the silver DVD) was NEVER a universal binary. That's why the Leopard retail disc was all the rage when it came out.

    Either that, or a staggering amount of the Mac community never got the memo...? :confused:
     
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    fuck, now i'm confused, i will check at work tomorrow and post more info nga

    :confused:
     
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    :werd: I can all but confirm this. The only Tiger install CD that I know of that was listed as universal was the Mac OS X Server 10.4.7 build. AFAIK, no universal copy of basic Tiger was ever released.
     
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    offtopic, but what is your AV from? I've seen it before, but don't know what its from.
     
  16. tenplanescrashing

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    sorry, didn't mean to say universal binary...universal meaning they weren' specific to G5's, G4's, laptops or desktops.

    I still say do one installation on each type of machine, create image, and use that image for the rest of them.
     
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    its stephanie from lazy town


    so fine (when she was younger)
     
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    uh... that's creepy. she's only 17 now.
     
  19. Laserbeak

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    Ah ok, heh. I concur on your recommendation, if the master image will be for nothing but Intel Macs.

    The retail Tiger DVD can be used to create a one-size-fits-all image if you have any PowerPC Macs, though. I was able to do that with no problem.
     

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