Mac has MORE vulnerabilities than Windows - what say you mac fans?

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  1. Coottie

    Coottie BOOMER......SOONER OT Supporter

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    http://blogs.zdnet.com/security/?p=758

    So what about all that stuff about not needing virus scan and firewalls??
    What about "Macs just work"??
     
  2. Pineapple Devil

    Pineapple Devil beat it!

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    macs dont need virus scans
    and the rest i find hard to believe
     
  3. Pseudonym

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    okay, now sit down and use a mac for a while while surfing your favourite porn and serial/crack website for a while and then we will see the results compared to a pc.
     
  4. Fail and aids

    Fail and aids Cynical Motherfucker.

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    That article is fucking bullshit.
     
  5. Uncle Phil

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    cool story broseph
     
  6. MP

    MP New Member

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    Apple specifically states every exploit patch one by one.

    1 update fixes 1 bug/exploit for apple.

    The same does not apply to XP & Vista. Windows bundles or doesn't even state what bug/exploit they are fixing. It is VERY common for windows to bundle 8 or more different patches into one. They consider this 1 patch, when in reality it's many, many more.

    The story about the hacker is nothing but a biased competition. Go ahead and put a dell or ibm laptop next to the apple and see which one gets "hacked" first. Obviously if a specific group of hackers sit down and collectively work to hack one laptop they will succeed. It's sad that the general population will just read over that and not realize what actually goes on. Very misleading to the average reader who doesn't have much knowledge of this subject.

    The main reason vista has not become a problem is because .9% of the enterprise world has implemented it since it's release. As more implementation is done more exploits/bugs/problems will be found. Fortunately so many problems have already popped up with Vista that most of us won't be implementing it until Microsoft stops supporting XP, which won't be for another few years.
     
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  7. Raider007

    Raider007 om nom nom nom

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  8. doublemeat

    doublemeat New Member

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    Well. I guess that's it. I'm dumping my Mac on the basis of one post from a person who is obviously not trolling.

    Yup. BRB.
     
  9. Coottie

    Coottie BOOMER......SOONER OT Supporter

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    huh? I'm not trolling....just thought I'd bring it to the attention of "those who know" you know?
     
  10. Pineapple Devil

    Pineapple Devil beat it!

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    and its obvious we know that that is a bias report and a crock of shit; therefore, we couldn't care less what they say
     
  11. Raider007

    Raider007 om nom nom nom

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    i couldn't tell you the last time i heard someone who owned a mac talked about spyware/virus/security problems at all, let alone worrying about it.
     
  12. hurleyint1386

    hurleyint1386 Someone has sand in their vagina

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    I've been using Macs for about 15 years now. I have never had one virus. I have never had any spyware, I've never had any adware.
     
  13. trouphaz

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    check the vulnerabilities that are listed. you don't have to look at them all, you just need to click through a few. you'll find 2 important things. 1) they are listing issues, not patches. so the comments that vysta/xp have more problems, but fewer (though larger and more involved) patches, don't really mean anything in the context of this article. 2) the OSX issues listed are bullshit. i clicked through a few and found a bunch that pretty much said "this is not an issue, it is just someone reserving space for when they find one." also, one of the issues basically said "this isn't an issue. it is just a duplicate of another."
    http://secunia.com/cve_reference/CVE-2007-3004/

    the other thing that i like about this article is that the OSX issues really aren't necessarily OSX issues per say. OSX comes with a lot of OpenSource software. A lot of these issues are problems with OpenSSL, Perl and other pretty much standard UNIX commands. On top of that, some are 3rd party issues such as the one for Adobe Flash player with the Opera browser.

    This article is severely flawed and biased and not worth any more time.
     
  14. a-money

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    such biased bullshit

    i read a few sentences and am not going to fucking spend my time reading the rest of this garbage
     
  15. Coottie

    Coottie BOOMER......SOONER OT Supporter

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    Oh come on....flaws and biases have been used to support MS bashing for a long time now. It's time Apple's got in on some of the fun....but yeah....I haven't look deeply into the article nor their research.
     
  16. tenplanescrashing

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    what these "researchers" fail to include is the likelyhood of exploit. OSX has had many vulnerabilities from day one but the likelyhood of them happening is pretty slim.

    shit, i could leave all ports wide open if I wanted to and probably never have an issue. and this doesn't just stem from the argument that "people don't hack OSX" because some of the vulnerabilities aren't platform dependent but the fact that most of thes require some kind of input from the person sitting at the mac before anything will happen.

    nice try troll
     
  17. xenon supra

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    Lies. Making me type in my password to install their virus completely invalidates everything that article said. :rofl:
     
  18. omgwtfbbqryan

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    troll troll troll your boat
     
  19. OakleyTodd

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    Bahhh Bahhhh.... Lots of iSheep milling about in this thread
     
  20. mobbarley

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    :rofl: you should see the non-i nerds talking about it in the comp&programming post he made.
     
  21. TheWeasel

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    Sure they don't need anti-virus software, FileDefense is much better. But to think that Macs aren't vulnerable to viruses, spyware, and other exploits is stupid. They're even more vulnerable as people are currently doing nothing to protect themselves from such threats.
     
  22. TheWeasel

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    These malicious goodies can be run without the need for the admin password.
     
  23. ady

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    It's a piece of shit article from a site that is well known for its bias. I'm sure they got alot of traffic out of it and of course it won't harm their overall readership. I'd be ashamed to have that crap on my site whether it drew traffic or not.

    From secunia themselves:

    http://secunia.com/product/96/?task=statistics
     
  24. skolen

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    Proof is in the pudding, son. And my pudding hasn't had a virus, malware or spyware problem in over 2 years having never run a program for any of it.
     
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